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(@fernelizabeth)
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Can't upload photos on my phone so I dyed my hair vermillion red diluted then it faded I. The week and my nuclear red arrived so ive now used it twice in the last 2 weeks. It seems to be fading more at the front. I'm letting my roots grow out to.
Is there anything I can do to keep it red red?
Special effects normally lasts me 5-6 weeks x

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Topic starter Posted : June 26, 2016 11:03 am
(@lauralei13)
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Unless they've drastically changed the formula in the past year since I used Nuclear Red it should be pretty long lasting - I used to get about 6 - 8 weeks from it. Is the front of your hair perhaps more damaged? (like do you straighten your fringe more than the rest of your hair or anything?) if your hair gets really porous it can lose colour faster. Other than that, could you have had a build up of products in that area before applying the colour? Maybe wash with a clarifying shampoo a few times then try again?

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Posted : June 26, 2016 12:35 pm
(@fernelizabeth)
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Well I bleached about two months ago and went pinks and purple  then I used a colour remover and it went light greenish to Blue.  Then I used the red over it. I only really straighten my fringe. I might have ago at that though. Which shampoo can u get from supermarket that's clarifying shampoo? I got one from sallys ages ago but was expensive.

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Topic starter Posted : June 26, 2016 5:14 pm
(@Wicked Pixie)
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It sounds like damage to me. If I remember rightly you were quite aggressive with the bleaching and fading a couple of months back, and bleach/chemical damage takes a while before it starts to show, which is why we always advise to go slowly.
Try a protein treatment, it may help to even out the porosity which will help the colour to last longer. How long are you leaving the dye on for? Leaving it on for at least 4 hours, or even overnight will maximise longevity.

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Posted : June 26, 2016 7:08 pm
(@fernelizabeth)
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I only bleached bath it once about 2 months ago and I faded it out the purple using colour remover and used  head and shoulders for 3 days.
I think I've left it for 2 hours cos I had plans so I cudnt leave on longer .

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Topic starter Posted : June 27, 2016 9:54 am
(@janineb)
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How are you washing it?

You did aggressively fade it several times though. Even if it's just head and shoulders lots of times, it all adds up to damage. I definitely remember you using vit c or bicarb of soda once and that's very drying.

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Posted : June 27, 2016 9:58 am
(@lauralei13)
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It is most likely to be damage I think, the longest tips of mine used to fade first. If you wanted to try the clarifying shampoo I use either the Tresemme deep cleansing or Herbal Essences naked shampoo and they usually get everything out of mine after a couple of washes. Then maybe try leaving it on quite a bit longer, I used to leave it about 6 hours.

If it still doesn't work you could try the protein route that Wicked Pixie suggested.

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Posted : June 27, 2016 10:56 am
(@fernelizabeth)
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I'm going shopping tommorow as I've been paid so gna look for stuff there. Yeah I did vitamin c
Should of just left it red haha nvm u think I've got that part out of me now

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Topic starter Posted : June 27, 2016 12:33 pm
(@janineb)
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You didn't answer how you wash your hair now. It could be important and save you a lot of money.

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Posted : June 27, 2016 1:57 pm
(@fernelizabeth)
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Aussie shampoo and conditioner. Not too much shampoo this and warm water.
How do I do a protein treatment?
I got that naked shampoo by herbal essences and some coconut deep conditioner and I put more dye on last night for 4 hours

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Topic starter Posted : June 28, 2016 5:40 am
(@janineb)
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Ah, Aussie. Lots of silicone then. That could be blocking the dye from your hair, meaning it'll be washing off faster. Also, if you're putting the conditioner in the front first, it could be building up more. Hopefully the clarifying shampoo you did will have helped. More than one wash is often needed for bad build up though. Silicone could also be masking a lot of damage.

Also, if you put the shampoo on the front of your head first (most people do) this would be contributing to it fading faster. But more details about how you actually wash it would be helpful. I'm not trying to be awkward asking silly questions, I'm trying to help πŸ™‚

For a protein treatment, it depends how bad your hair needs it. Kpak reconstructor would probably be best though. Make sure to deep condition afterwards.

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Posted : June 28, 2016 7:46 am
(@fernelizabeth)
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So am I best off to use the herbal essences  for my next few washes? Think I  put it on the back first cos I don't have a shower. Bent over the bath with the shower thing lol
I'll have a look for that reconstructor.
My hair is looking very good today tho haha
Off to London for the day to πŸ™‚ x

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Topic starter Posted : June 28, 2016 8:34 am
(@janineb)
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No, don't use it again until it starts fading and you need to top up again. Don't use it too much as it strips the natural oil off the scalp too much.

I would suggest changing from the Aussie really and going for something without silicone.

Hope you have a nice day πŸ™‚

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Posted : June 28, 2016 8:37 am
(@fernelizabeth)
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How do u know what shampoo has silicone in it? As I can't see it on the back lol I might be being thick tho

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Topic starter Posted : June 29, 2016 9:21 am
(@janineb)
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It's about the shampoo and conditioner, it's more likely in conditioner. The last thing I read said "anything ending in β€œcone,” β€œconol,” β€œcol,” or β€œxane,” " is best avoided.

Now, I don't think silicone is all evil, far from it. Water soluble silicone is not too bad - "Dimethicone Copolyol (water soluble), PEG-Dimethicone, or any other 'cone with "PEG-" suffix (water soluble)". In my opinion it's generally best to avoid them really as I never fully trust that they're gone when you could end up with patches.

If you see Methychloroisothiazolinone or Methylisothiazolinone, they're just preservatives and Benzophenone-2, ( or 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10) is sunscreen.

Silicone isn't the worst thing in the world, but to dye with direct dyes you have to use clarifying shampoo and they're really harsh which just adds to damage.

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Posted : June 29, 2016 10:15 am
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