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(@katiesiepierski)
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Okay so tying into this thread:
http://www.hairdyeforum.com/index.php?topic=13752.msg154984#new
And @Swilks recommendation of adding some shampoo to the bleach powder + water technique, I used that as inspiration to try something different.

My hair was slathered in coconut oil, I didn't rinse it out or anything first. I used:
- 3-4 oz various sulfate based shampoos
- 1 scoop of bleach powder
- 1 teaspoon olive oil
-1 teaspoon coconut oil

So there's much less bleach powder going into it than the water paste technique. I applied it in the same general manner as I would bleach but I took bigger sections, painted some of the mix on and slathered it onto the rest of the section, so nothing precise or technical, it was pretty sloppy. Then I worked it through it all, making sure it was heavily covered and flipped each side of the hair on my head over the top, like 2 headbands. Make sure you are very, very liberal with it so it doesn't dry out, it should feel like a cross between having hair full of shampoo and conditioner, you don't want it to feel sparse or dry at all. Really put a bunch on and work it through + scrub it into your hair some to try and really get it in there. 

There didn't seem to be much color coming out + I was about to just rinse it out thinking it was a waste of time/product, but I put a cap on it and left it for about a half hour, smooshing the hair around periodically. It was hot outside and warm in the house so there was a lot more heat coming from my scalp than normal which I think was the key element. I mean, I was really hot during this! lol So I would either stay really active while it's on or keep it warm throughout it, periodically heating it up with a dryer and smooshing it around under the cap to make sure all the hairs are getting warmed up. Warming it up with a dryer may actually be better, because where I sweat more, in my nape area, I got really itchy afterwards after I shampooed. Anyway though, I kept mine on for bout a half hour, then I rinsed in warm/hot water and shampooed it once, deep conditioned, and holy cow I am impressed! 

For aftercare, you will want to deep condition/put some oils in your hair, and finish with a vinegar rinse.

For me, it was much less drying than using water alone with bleach powder, much less drying than doing a vitamin c treatment, and it pulled even more color out than any fading treatment I've ever tried. Though my hair looks crazy in the photo, it's half wet and half dry and looks a mess, it doesn't feel excessively dry at all, I don't have any splits starting from it like the last vitamin c treatment I did in the winter, my hair doesn't feel rough or tangley, it just feels dry, as if I used a really strong shampoo on it and left it for 45 minutes or something. It really does not feel bad at all. I will be keeping you all posted though, in case any damage pops up from it over the next month (which I'm really not expecting, but it could happen).

I have just over an inch of roots, which I tried to keep this mixture off of, then an inch or two of a pale pink/coral, then a duller, lighter version of my original color for a couple few inches, then I have places where I can see my blonde coming through (which I haven't seen since October, thanks Atomic Pink lol), a lot of coral and dusky pink and pastels of each allover the lengths.

The areas that it did get on my virgin hair, it revealed a little of the underlying pigment, so instead of a dark ash blonde, they have more of a light gingery/gold-ish tint to them.

I just HAD to share with all of you, and thank you to @Swilks for inspiring the shampoo idea ๐Ÿ™‚ Finally something budged this Atomic Pink past that light/neon pink stage!

I would treat this as if it were a bleach bath though. So if you have bleached/dyed, wait at least a month to do this, and a week after this to do any other processing. If you've done a bleach bath, wait at least a week to do this and again, at least a week to do any other processing.

I went  from slightly lighter than the first photo, to the 2nd. The result photo my hair is in that weird half wet/half dry stage so it looks a mess, sorry lol.  And sorry for the poor phone camera quality. I just wanted to take a quick result photo and post it as soon as I could for you all to see. I will be posting proper, dried hair photos later today lol

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Topic starter Posted : May 31, 2014 2:33 pm
(@Odette)
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Oh, I wish I'd knew before the powder + hot water technique!

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Posted : June 1, 2014 10:15 am
(@crowcrow)
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WOW! Holy cow ๐Ÿ˜€ it's amazing! I'm now trying to think of a way of removing brown (I presume) perm dye out of my hair, as I have a hard time lifting it with a 20vol bleach, so maybe I should try this method?

I love how multitonal your hair is, plus the quality is not bad at all, I can see the result really well! Thanks for posting!!

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Posted : June 1, 2014 10:43 am
(@luciainfurs)
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๐Ÿ˜ฎ

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Posted : June 1, 2014 11:23 am
(@jacquelineh)
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I've just done this and it's amazing! Before and after pics to come (although my resulting colour is sadly much less pretty than Katie's).

Before

After

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Posted : June 1, 2014 11:46 am
(@Alexia)
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OMG excellent results!!  I'm impressed, another amazing fading technique to try.  Good stuff!

(So you're changing from the pink now, or just fading for a clean base to put more on?) ๐Ÿ˜€

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Posted : June 1, 2014 12:22 pm
(@katiesiepierski)
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Thanks for sharing your results too TabithaBlue! And thanks to everyone for checking this out! I am anazed at how well it works and how much less drying it is compared to using it with water, or doing a vitamin c treatment.

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Topic starter Posted : June 1, 2014 4:49 pm
(@marthakins)
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This is incredible! Will definitely be trying this next time I need to fade a colour.

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Posted : June 1, 2014 5:11 pm
(@meeshybop)
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I might try this tomorrow!

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Posted : June 2, 2014 11:40 am
(@jacquelineh)
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Thanks for sharing your results too TabithaBlue! And thanks to everyone for checking this out! I am anazed at how well it works and how much less drying it is compared to using it with water, or doing a vitamin c treatment.

My hair feels perfectly fine afterwards - I did slap on some K-pak immediately after, but then I dried without conditioner and it felt great, and now post-dye it feels lovely. Yay!

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Posted : June 2, 2014 12:11 pm
(@sexyback)
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Oooft that really HAS lifted a lot!!! Maybe you'll get to your hair dream sooner than planned!
Although I will miss my pinky friend lol! Tori shouts MUMMY everytime she sees your avatar LOL!

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Posted : June 2, 2014 2:40 pm
(@katiesiepierski)
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Oooft that really HAS lifted a lot!!! Maybe you'll get to your hair dream sooner than planned!
Although I will miss my pinky friend lol! Tori shouts MUMMY everytime she sees your avatar LOL!

Awwww! That is so sweet <3 <3 <3 I know I'm totally impressed with how much this has taken out and how great my hair feels after! I will keep posted though in case any unexpected damage shows up over the next month or so, you never know! My hair really did feel fine after, just a little dry. I did make a mix out of Suave's Tropical Coconut Conditioner, a tube of Biolage Keratindose concentrate, and 2 vials of Biolage Hydratherapie Cera-Repair (moisture) and used it right after, and I've done I think 2 overnight coconut oil + olive oil soaks, and my hair feels back to normal completely now.  I have 2 areas that got damaged in the winter, the areas right in front of the ear. I have a little sidecut on each side, and that area right behind it wasn't breaking or splitting or anything, it didn't feel rough either, the ends just looked thin and scraggly so I cut them off. You can see in the photos, especially the 2nd one what I'm talking about. So if you have any areas that are a little iffy to begin with, I'd be very careful if you use this treatment, you may end up with some damage.

All in all though I'm totally loving this! At first I really did NOT like these warm pastels on me, I normally look like death wearing colors like this in clothing. It has seriously grown on me though! When it fades a little more, I may try adding some various pastels/just darker than pastels in some placement so I can have some pastel rainbow action going on before I do go dark grey. And yes @Swilks, I think I'll be able to get to dark grey a lot sooner than I thought!


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Topic starter Posted : June 2, 2014 9:18 pm
(@Odette)
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Love it!

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Posted : June 2, 2014 9:51 pm
(@Valaina)
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It's so cute! And I think you will suit dark grey very well. Can't wait to see it!

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Posted : June 3, 2014 10:25 am
(@pastina)
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so, for future reference, will this mixture lighten roots at all, or just fade dye?  though regardless (since my roots aren't an issue atm), i think i need to try this really soon-- it sounds almost too good to be true, lol!  ....also, i agree that dark gray will look fantastic on you-- can't wait to see!

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Posted : June 6, 2014 7:14 pm
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