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CO Washing Conditioners
« on: 24 May 12 / 07:34 PM »
What are you CO washing with and then what are you using as your second conditioner?
Also what worked for you and what didn't?
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Re: CO Washing Conditioners
« Reply #1 on: 24 May 12 / 08:00 PM »
I'm currently using Morissons Jojoba conditioner (it's 88p for a 750ml bottle) as my CO wash and I use Tresemme Naturals Moisture conditioner as my rinse out :)
I did try the Sainsburys Watermint conditioner but I needed loads of it and it wasn't as good.

But with the current routine I have is really working :D
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Re: CO Washing Conditioners
« Reply #2 on: 24 May 12 / 08:58 PM »
i use wilko the blue conditioner & fructis repair & shine(me thinks) as a wash out. my hairdresser said my hair condition has emproved LOADS since i saw him last in feb! all down to no cones & sulphates me thinks
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Re: CO Washing Conditioners
« Reply #3 on: 25 May 12 / 12:58 PM »
ive completly missed this whole CO washing thing, how do you do it?
 

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Re: CO Washing Conditioners
« Reply #4 on: 25 May 12 / 04:24 PM »
There is a few threads dotting around the foruk if you search. This one will probably be more helpful to you. http://www.hairdyeforum.com/index.php?topic=6550.0

I started this one because i wanted to see what was good for the co wash that I could try out.
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Re: CO Washing Conditioners
« Reply #5 on: 25 May 12 / 04:30 PM »
Thanks! I'll give this a read!
 

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Re: CO Washing Conditioners
« Reply #6 on: 25 May 12 / 07:58 PM »
I use a variety of Wilco conditioners for washing and then quite a few different conditioners for my second conditioner: Fructis Repair and Shine (actually I ran out of it and my Wilco doesn't stock it anymore!), Tresemme naturals, anything from Alberto Balsam.

I have to find new conditioners for washing as Wilco tests on animals and I'm going cruelty free so when I run out I'll have to investigate other ones (Sainsburys and Superdrugs dont test, so perhaps they've got some cheapy cone-free stuff)
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Re: CO Washing Conditioners
« Reply #7 on: 25 May 12 / 08:00 PM »
Grrrrr I bought sleek and shine not repair and shine!! Oh well, they're only a pound lol
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Re: CO Washing Conditioners
« Reply #8 on: 25 May 12 / 10:43 PM »
Theo, wilko discontinued the garnier range. So we don't do it at all, i wasn't aware we tested on animals though! I will be investigating this!
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Re: CO Washing Conditioners
« Reply #9 on: 26 May 12 / 09:09 AM »
I am an avid co washer, I personally use tesco coconut conditioner and the fructis sleek and shine but here is the full list of approved products ( curly girl ... Sls and silicone free or water soluble silicones only)


Conditioners
Asda coconut natural approx 90p
Asda jojoba approx 90p
Louise Galvin Naked Hair £10 (tho sometimes on sale £7)
Aubrey Organics Honeysuckle Rose approx £9 - Curly Emporium
Dr Organics Aloe Vera approx £4
Naked Conditioners (avail in Boots) £3.91 - Naked shine Hydrating Co is CG (2 water soluble cones), Naked Rescue Intensive Care, Naked rescue repairing Hair treatment repairing sachet, Naked colour protecting co (2 water soluble cones), Naked Vitamin Boost, Naked Detox Balancing co (1 water soluble cone), Naked Care sensistive co,  Naked Volume Weightless co (2 water soluble cones)
Original Source £1+
Garnier Fructus Repair & Shine £1-£2
Garnier Fructus sleek and shine around £2
Inecto Pure Coconut Oil (500ml) £2
Superdrug Naturals Intensive Conditioner Coconut and Sweet Almond £1.85
Superdrug Naturals Conditioner Coconut and Sweet Almond (300ml) £1
Boots Ingredients Intensive hair mask Honey and Jojoba (350ml) £2
Boots Ingredients Intensive hair mask Coconut and Almond (350ml) £2
Pure Nuff Stuff conditioner approx £5.50 (order from website)
Knot Today £10.50 - Curly Emporium
Avocado Detangling Conditoner £8.95 - Curly Emporium
Coconut Conditioner £10.95 - Curly Emporium
Curl Assurance Daily Conditioner £15.95 - Curly Emporium
Faith in Nature conditioners for cowash - approx £3.90 - £4.50 (Whole Foods and some health stores)
Shea Moisture Shea Butter leave in - approx £7.80 (available from Nubian Heritage shops and online)
Lustrasilk Shea Butter and Mango - £1.69-£1.99 (bought from a black beauty store, but available online cost higher tho’)
Biolage conditioning balm - approx £8.99 (Sally’s in some stores) Also from hairdressers
Dr Organics Manuka Honey Conditioner approx £4.99 (Holland & Barretts)
Somerfield Jojoba & balsam (under) £1
Morrisons fruits conditioners around 99p
Big baby conditioner £4.50 for 250ml, £2.50 for 100ml
Feed the conditioner   £4.50 for 250ml, £2.50 for 100ml
C Curls conditioner £4.50 for 250ml, £2.50 for 100ml
Straight conditioner £4.50 for 250ml, £2.50 for 100ml
Tesco Extracts coconut conditioner approx £1.50
Body Shop Rainforest around £4
Schwarzkopf Supersoft Bio Pomegranate Conditioner £1-£2
Loreal Restore Conditioner (white and red bottle advertised by Cheryl Cole)
Tresemme Naturals
Tea Tree and Peppermint around (Superdrug own brand) £1.75
Sainsburys family apple conditioner 500ml approx 88p
Morrisons big and beautiful conditioner 400ml approx £1
Superdrug naturals range Raspberry and Macadamia Nut approx 79p
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Re: CO Washing Conditioners
« Reply #10 on: 26 May 12 / 08:27 PM »
 :o but, but...they're so many!!! I'll come living in  the UK!!!
Here in Italy I don't think we even have the fructis ones  :-[ (ok maybe under an other name... need to investigate! No way that cheap anyway)
I found one that works for COW(splend'or al cocco, for who's interested, 500ml  2.50 euro ) as it was named in an italian forum, but I can't seem to find anything else... found one without silicones but had polyquaternium xx and was soo sticky afterwards (mill mill karité)...there might be others but are like masks and in no way ok to clean the hair...  :(
If anybody here has one, please write! :)
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Re: CO Washing Conditioners
« Reply #11 on: 27 May 12 / 01:05 AM »
I haven't figure out what conditioner to use for a Co wash, here in romania it's luxury to find a decent hair product :P
They do have the fructis one though but that is for use as a normal or leave in conditioner right? Not for Co-washing...
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Re: CO Washing Conditioners
« Reply #12 on: 27 May 12 / 07:29 AM »
In Europe I think it's called 'triple nutrition' might be worth googling it to find out if it is the same and available on your eBay etc.

It is a little thick and rich for co washing but I use it after my co wash and leave it on my hair like 10/15 mins whilst I lay in the bath, it is worth trying to find as its very reasonably priced and good stuff! Xx
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« Reply #13 on: 27 May 12 / 07:42 AM »
Its called nutri repair triple nutrition in aus :)
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« Reply #14 on: 27 May 12 / 08:15 AM »
Thank u stephaniflowers...... I racked my little fuzzy brain for the brand name and I couldn't think!!
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Re: CO Washing Conditioners
« Reply #15 on: 27 May 12 / 10:39 AM »

It is a little thick and rich for co washing

So for co washing i need a more liquid conditioner?
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« Reply #16 on: 27 May 12 / 11:00 AM »
Yeah ideally, USUALLY family store basic conditioners are a good place to start checking ingredients. I'm sure if you took a pic of the ingredient list and posted it we could let you know if it's any good but here's some helpful info off curly girl:

Silicones that are not soluble in water and build up on the hair: Cetearyl methicone, Cetyl Dimethicone, Cyclomethicone, Cyclopentasiloxane, Dimethicone, Dimethiconol, Stearyl Dimethicone, Amodimethicone (and) Trideceth-12 (and) Cetrimonium Chloride, and Trimethylsilylamodimethicone. Note: Trideceth-12 and Cetrimonium Chloride are only considered a silcone when both are combined with Amodimethicone.
Silicones that are slightly soluble in water and will build up on most types of curly hair: Amodimethicone, Behenoxy Dimethicone, and Stearoxy Dimethicone.
Silicones that are soluble in water and safe to use (they are not listed with PEG in front of them): Dimethicone Copolyol, Hydrolyzed Wheat Protein Hydroxypropyl Polysiloxane, and Lauryl methicone copolyol

I'm not sure if this is the correct way to co wash but here's my method:

Wet hair (if u r doing this in the bath make sure u use a jug of fresh tap water not water that has bubble bath in it)

Take a jug add an egg cup amount of water to jug

Squidge into the jug/water about the same amount of the conditioner ( needs to be a silicone free one,i use tescos coconut)

Use your hand to mix it up until it froths

Either put in an old (clean & rinsed out) cosmetic bottle or if your feeling accurate and quick you can just slowly pour from the jug to your head

Start at the very top of your head, apply 2/3 rds of the mix and massage in, just rub as if you were shampooing, then the remaining mix onto the lengths, don't over distress hair though ( if you wouldn't like your face being rubbed into 40 thousand rough tree trunks, try not to rub your delicate hair into each other, massage it and scrunch it instead)

Use the jug to rinse out well,

Use a regular sized blob of conditioner and condition lengths as per usual, leave for 5 mins if your hair is damaged
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« Reply #17 on: 27 May 12 / 11:36 AM »
Wow very very useful!!! Thanks a million! :)
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« Reply #18 on: 29 May 12 / 11:22 AM »
I've recently decided to go CO but when I went to asda they didn't have any own brand that didn't have Poly's in, there wasn't even a space on the shelf for it.

Maybe discontinued?

Instead I got Alberto balsam for my CO is this OK?
 

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« Reply #19 on: 29 May 12 / 12:20 PM »
Yeah I noticed asda had stopped their own brand coconut essentials one ( that's why I went for tescos)

I'm not 100% sure if it is, if it's not on the list above I pretty much avoid it, just had a look on another forum and they were talking about Alberto balsam:
 Re: Silicone-free conditioners in the UK
Oh, cyclopentasilaxane probably. That's the worst one. Not good for curly/kinky hair at all, especially if you're not using shampoo often.

They may of changed the 'recipe' though
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« Reply #20 on: 29 May 12 / 02:40 PM »
Yerp, cyclopentasilaxane is right here :/

Damn I bought 10 bottles as i was totally certain they where safe

What will it do to my hair if I do use them?
 

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« Reply #21 on: 29 May 12 / 03:30 PM »
It will just make your hair shiny, but it is not soluble in water so it will build up on your hair and then you will need to use a cleansing shampoo... Sorry!

Here's a list you may want to print out so you know what to be looking for in ingredients:

Silicones that are not soluble in water and build up on the hair: Cetearyl methicone, Cetyl Dimethicone, Cyclomethicone, Cyclopentasiloxane, Dimethicone, Dimethiconol, Stearyl Dimethicone, Amodimethicone (and) Trideceth-12 (and) Cetrimonium Chloride, and Trimethylsilylamodimethicone. Note: Trideceth-12 and Cetrimonium Chloride are only considered a silcone when both are combined with Amodimethicone.

Silicones that are slightly soluble in water and will build up on most types of curly hair: Amodimethicone, Behenoxy Dimethicone, and Stearoxy Dimethicone.

Silicones that are soluble in water and safe to use (they are not listed with PEG in front of them): Dimethicone Copolyol, Hydrolyzed Wheat Protein Hydroxypropyl Polysiloxane, and Lauryl methicone copolyol

Ok, so just googled the silicone in Alberto balsam: omg, in studies it caused tumours in more than one group of animals and it's been on the news in America because of it being associated with certain cancers, I'm not setting a wolf amongst sheep and trying to frighten anyone, I had no idea I'm just shocked at what we put on our bodies, I'm thinking of emigrating to the jungle and washing with wild boar poo at this rate!

I'd either return the product to store or eBay it, wilkinsons do a coconut conditioner that's ok to use, have a look on my other list earlier on on this thread I'm sure there will be something local to you xx
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« Reply #22 on: 29 May 12 / 03:52 PM »
Thank You, What a shame, I have to buy in bulk when I get anything like this as I can't just nip to shops so easy. I'm mostly in asda as its closer but looks like I'll have to try again lol

I will get it right!!

OMG, That's extremely shocking, theres me thinking they are really good and they are very far from it!

Thank you for the list, I will take it out with me and ensure I get the correct ones this time.

 

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« Reply #23 on: 29 May 12 / 04:26 PM »
It's so frustrating I know, I spent £21 on this one product that I thought would be great and it was all wrong! I went to my supermarket and got the right one for £1! Grrrr

Asda sell garnier fructis sleek n shine which is fine to use, it is a bit thick though but I guess you could just add more water to make it thinner, Its on offer at £1 at the mo and is in a bright lime green bottle. I will give it a go next time I wash my hair but it will be a week now, ( since stopping shampoo my hair just doesn't get greasy so as gross as it sounds I only wash it once a week)

Good luck, I'm sure you will find the perfect one for u soon x
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Re: CO Washing Conditioners
« Reply #24 on: 29 May 12 / 04:43 PM »
kinda related, i finally found the alberto balsamn orangeish hair stuff & im pretty sure the 4th ingredient is cone =( so wont be using that now!
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