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Dreadie_Lover

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Re: CO Washing Conditioners
« Reply #25 on: 29 May 12 / 04:50 PM »
It's so frustrating I know, I spent £21 on this one product that I thought would be great and it was all wrong! I went to my supermarket and got the right one for £1! Grrrr

Asda sell garnier fructis sleek n shine which is fine to use, it is a bit thick though but I guess you could just add more water to make it thinner, Its on offer at £1 at the mo and is in a bright lime green bottle. I will give it a go next time I wash my hair but it will be a week now, ( since stopping shampoo my hair just doesn't get greasy so as gross as it sounds I only wash it once a week)

Good luck, I'm sure you will find the perfect one for u soon x


Well I have like 20+ bottles for my rich condition so would I be OK just watering this down for now? I'm doing a rainbow at the weekend so I'm hoping to have a routine going before then. I think I'll be able to go to tesco tomorrow is there anything that you recommend? Obv their family conditioner is a must! 
 

Babe_Hawx

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Re: CO Washing Conditioners
« Reply #26 on: 29 May 12 / 05:03 PM »
The intensive repair one? Yeah I found it gunked my hair up! We need a shop that sells co wash friendly stuff with big clear labels for us!

I don't know why that reply was posted above as it was posted somewhere else ! Grrrr silly phone! Anyways, tescos

They do a fab cone friendly conditioner , it's their own bog standard one in a big bottle called tesco smooth conditioner coconut

Sorry if I'm too late and my mad previous reply!

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Dreadie_Lover

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Re: CO Washing Conditioners
« Reply #27 on: 31 May 12 / 07:51 AM »
Haha its ok, thats the one I got along with the purple one Jojoba or something?  3 for 2 :D

Tbf I though you was replying to pippa lol
Kinda made sense
 

Babe_Hawx

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« Reply #28 on: 31 May 12 / 08:47 AM »
Aaaah so I was! Lol! Somedays I wonder how I make it across the road safely I'm that away with the fairies as my family say!
 

LisaOrestea

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Re: CO Washing Conditioners
« Reply #29 on: 30 Jun 12 / 07:40 PM »
It will just make your hair shiny, but it is not soluble in water so it will build up on your hair and then you will need to use a cleansing shampoo... Sorry!

Here's a list you may want to print out so you know what to be looking for in ingredients:

Silicones that are not soluble in water and build up on the hair: Cetearyl methicone, Cetyl Dimethicone, Cyclomethicone, Cyclopentasiloxane, Dimethicone, Dimethiconol, Stearyl Dimethicone, Amodimethicone (and) Trideceth-12 (and) Cetrimonium Chloride, and Trimethylsilylamodimethicone. Note: Trideceth-12 and Cetrimonium Chloride are only considered a silcone when both are combined with Amodimethicone.

Silicones that are slightly soluble in water and will build up on most types of curly hair: Amodimethicone, Behenoxy Dimethicone, and Stearoxy Dimethicone.

Silicones that are soluble in water and safe to use (they are not listed with PEG in front of them): Dimethicone Copolyol, Hydrolyzed Wheat Protein Hydroxypropyl Polysiloxane, and Lauryl methicone copolyol

Ok, so just googled the silicone in Alberto balsam: omg, in studies it caused tumours in more than one group of animals and it's been on the news in America because of it being associated with certain cancers, I'm not setting a wolf amongst sheep and trying to frighten anyone, I had no idea I'm just shocked at what we put on our bodies, I'm thinking of emigrating to the jungle and washing with wild boar poo at this rate!

I'd either return the product to store or eBay it, wilkinsons do a coconut conditioner that's ok to use, have a look on my other list earlier on on this thread I'm sure there will be something local to you xx

Thank you so much for this list! This will be very helpful!
And the list of approved products. I wanna give this a shot.
 

rhubarb88

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Re: CO Washing Conditioners
« Reply #30 on: 02 Jul 12 / 07:47 PM »
i tried CO washing for a week and it made my hair greasy really quick. i can normally go about 3-4days before my hair gets greasy but doing CO made it greasy the next day :s so i gave up lol
 

Dreadie_Lover

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Re: CO Washing Conditioners
« Reply #31 on: 02 Jul 12 / 07:54 PM »
i tried CO washing for a week and it made my hair greasy really quick. i can normally go about 3-4days before my hair gets greasy but doing CO made it greasy the next day :s so i gave up lol

Mine was like this but I've been doing it for just under a month and its got better! I now last longer none greasy than what it did with the normal shampoo & conditioner wash!
 

rhubarb88

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Re: CO Washing Conditioners
« Reply #32 on: 02 Jul 12 / 08:10 PM »
i tried CO washing for a week and it made my hair greasy really quick. i can normally go about 3-4days before my hair gets greasy but doing CO made it greasy the next day :s so i gave up lol

Mine was like this but I've been doing it for just under a month and its got better! I now last longer none greasy than what it did with the normal shampoo & conditioner wash!

ah really? i might start it again, if it gets better after a few weeks, it might be worth putting up with greasy hair for abit lol
 

Babe_Hawx

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Re: CO Washing Conditioners
« Reply #33 on: 02 Jul 12 / 08:11 PM »
The only thing I can think of is the conditioner was too rich/ thick. I use a cheap silicone free ( that's the important bit) conditioner .... Usuallys tescos own coconut one, squidge a good egg cup amount into a jug and about the same of water, mix it up to a froth and then wash my hair with the frothy mix, rinse well and hey presto clean and happy co washed hair

Edit: I get over 7 days greasy free hair and I have reallllllllly greasy skin usually
 

Dreadie_Lover

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Re: CO Washing Conditioners
« Reply #34 on: 02 Jul 12 / 09:16 PM »
I think I might try your method and see if my hair likes it better, I've been using Theodor's (if thats how you spell it) method, conditioner on dry hair then gradually wet it more and more :) I can get about 4ish days out of it (before co washing I had to wash my hair every day)

I'll try yours and yes I have really greasy skin too
 

rhubarb88

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Re: CO Washing Conditioners
« Reply #35 on: 02 Jul 12 / 11:57 PM »
Yeah i might try that way to. I have been using the Garnier fructus conditioner
 

Babe_Hawx

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Re: CO Washing Conditioners
« Reply #36 on: 03 Jul 12 / 06:25 AM »
The garnier fructis repair and shine is a bit too rich for co-washing which is prob why your hair felt heavy and greasy. You could try diluting it down with water to make a froth but I would maybe try swapping to a cheaper thinner cone free conditioner to cowash with and use the fructis stuff as a regular conditioner on the ends of your hair x
 

Dreadie_Lover

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Re: CO Washing Conditioners
« Reply #37 on: 03 Jul 12 / 08:48 AM »
Ahh hang on, you just said end of your hair... meaning the rich condition shouldn't be at the roots?

This is maybe where I'm going wrong, I've been doing my normal co wash with tesco conditioner and then using the repair and shine but right to the roots.
 

rhubarb88

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Re: CO Washing Conditioners
« Reply #38 on: 03 Jul 12 / 06:22 PM »
ah nobody has said that before, lots of people on here say the garnier one is the best to use, i will try watering it down first and if its still making it greasy i will change conditioner :) thank you!
 

Dreadie_Lover

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Re: CO Washing Conditioners
« Reply #39 on: 03 Jul 12 / 07:13 PM »
You use a cheap conditioner (most people use Tesco Coconut conditioner) to wash your hair with massaging and everything then use a rich conditioner (garnier) to give their hair that extra bit but some don't use a rich after.

This is why Babe_Hawx mentioned watering it down so it wont be as rich for your hair for the first wash :)
 

Babe_Hawx

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Re: CO Washing Conditioners
« Reply #40 on: 03 Jul 12 / 08:32 PM »
No worries! Glad to help,

There's no 'set way' or rule about how to do it, I just did my own thing and probably by chance it works fab but everybody's hair is different so what works for one may not work for another but could just be a matter of tweaking the method to suit your hair.

A few of my tips:
Save an old shampoo bottle, wash out completely so no residue, once you have made your watered down conditioner mix in a jug, transfer to the shampoo bottle, shake bottle to foam it up & use the shampoo bottle to direct the liquid onto your hair/ scalp just where you need it.
When applying your richer conditioner, apply just to the lengths of your hair from the bottom of your ear lobes down ( for long hair) or just the tips if it's short, don't be heavy handed with the rich stuff as it can make your hair gunky, sticky and heavy,Leave on for a few mins & rinse well
Try using an old tshirt or even better piece of satin/silk to turban your hair after washing, the friction off towels can rough up your hair making it frizzy

Hope this helps x
 

Dreadie_Lover

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Re: CO Washing Conditioners
« Reply #41 on: 03 Jul 12 / 11:17 PM »
AHH thankyou, thats great advice i will start doing some of your tips and let you know how i get on!
 

ModifiedMomma

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Re: CO Washing Conditioners
« Reply #42 on: 04 Jul 12 / 02:58 PM »
We're in the US, and so we've had a bit of time trying to locate cone-free conditioners for CO washing.  I thought I'd add what we're using in case there are any others in the US looking for brands that are cone-free.  :)  In the US, Garnier Fructis all have amodimethicone in them.  :(

We use TRESemmé  Naturals and Suave Naturals Tropical Coconut for CO washing.  My daughter and I both have really fine, thin hair.  She does not use a wash out conditioner after CO washing or it leaves her hair feeling heavy; I do use a rinse out - currently that is Pureology for dry hair that is tinted with my SFX dye.  We do both use Joico K-Pak reconstructor and Intense Hydrator once per week after using a sulphate-free shampoo (also called low-poo on the CG forums).

I can't seem to get away from some cones in my styling products, but they are very few.  I clarify once a month before I refresh my SFX dye, so I figure that takes care of any buildup and hairspray.  ;)

Hope this helps!
 

Dreadie_Lover

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Re: CO Washing Conditioners
« Reply #43 on: 04 Jul 12 / 05:20 PM »
Thanks for adding this, I'm located in the UK, should maybe change my profile as I've just noticed it doesn't state it over there <<<<< 

I haven't yet tried the K-Pak but hopefully will be able to get that in September (when I get paid).
I also haven't yet tried the whole conditioner and dye mix although its rare that I only have one colour in my hair, currently I'm rainbow so that would be a nightmare!

I don't use styling products often, about once every 2 months? and that's just hairspray that I don't *think* has any cones in but I do clarify my hair before dying as I didn't know how us CO washers are supposed to do it but I figured that would be best :)
 

MoonNymph

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Re: CO Washing Conditioners
« Reply #44 on: 18 Sep 12 / 11:32 PM »
I just started doing CO washes about a week and a half ago. I am not sure if you can purchase the Deva Curl products in stores in Europe, but I am pretty sure you can purchase them online. I use the Deva Curl "No Poo" (They also have "Lo Poo") and the "On Condition" conditioning treatment. My hair is naturally very curly and dry, so I only wash it a few times a week, but so far my hair has not been oily or greasy and I noticed that it does not dry as limp as it did before using the other shampoos/conditioners. The roots are much more voluminous and my curls are more defined as well. The scent is a little strong to bear at first, (It's a minty almost menthol type scent,) but the strength of the scent fades away after a day or so.


If the scent bugs you, there is also a brand called "One "N Only Argan Oil" that has a paraben and sulfate free shampoo and conditioner. I haven't tried this yet, but once I get a better look at the ingredient list, I may check it out. I didn't see anything about cones on the site preview.
 

HananaTheBanana

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« Reply #45 on: 29 Sep 12 / 12:29 AM »
I'm SO glad I found this post. I've been looking for something like this on the site for ages because I want to start CO washes but didn't know how to do it or what conditioner to use!

For the richer conditioner on the midlengths to ends of hair after you've used the cheapy stuff, does that have to be cone-less too?
 

KittyLost

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Re: CO Washing Conditioners
« Reply #46 on: 29 Sep 12 / 12:35 AM »
Yes it needs to be coneless otherwise you go back to needing a sulphate shampoo to get rid of silicone build up :)
 

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« Reply #47 on: 29 Sep 12 / 12:38 AM »
Cheap ones tend to be cone free anyway as its expensive to add I believe.
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HananaTheBanana

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« Reply #48 on: 29 Sep 12 / 12:26 PM »
Definitely is going to be good for the student budget! I've just coloured my hair so I'm a little cautious to do a cleansing shampoo to start the whole process! Definitely going to give it a go though.
 

The_sunny_girl

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« Reply #49 on: 29 Sep 12 / 01:04 PM »
I found a cone free conditioner it's from "Diplona" i think it's a german brand, if you come across it check it out. Cheers!
 

 

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