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Re: Share your Bleaching Horror Stories
« Reply #150 on: 01 Aug 13 / 02:43 AM »
Wow, these stories are pretty scary! I regularly use bleach at 40% vol and hav only ever had one problem! Although my horror story did make me be more careful!
Basically one night i had to bleach my hair to get rid of the pink i had, for sixth form the next day, and i just assumed that it would bring it all out in one go- this was when i wasnt very experienced, and i was pretty desperate so i literally whacked 2 lots of 40% vol on for about an hour and a half, and then as soon as it had been washed out and dried, whacked another whole lot on, and as it was about 2am by this point, i covered it in a plastic bag to heat it up quicker-big mistake! Part of the bleach had got onto my scalp just above my forehead and as it started heating up i felt it burning, so i washed it off. After a while i noticed a thumping feeling where it had happened, and i found a huge lump and a pulsing vein! My eyes also started feeling quite dry and i couldnt lay dn without feeling dizzy, by this point is was about 5am and i was literally just panicking. Nothing worse came out of it, it started going down within a few hours and over a couple of days it healed well, but it still worries me and now im much more careful, no more plastic bags or letting the bleach touch my scalp!
 

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« Reply #151 on: 02 Aug 13 / 10:00 AM »
Whatttt I can't believe you use 40vol still after that!
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« Reply #152 on: 02 Aug 13 / 10:20 AM »
Haha, yeah probably not the smartest idea after ithat :') but im definitely a lot more careful, and its been fine ever since, the weaker percentages just never seemed to work on my hair :p
 

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« Reply #153 on: 02 Aug 13 / 02:22 PM »
I have hard to bleach, dark brown (with quite a lot of red) hair. 30 vol takes me to a yellow or if it's warm, a pale yellow. If you're using it properly, then 30 vol is enough for pretty much everyone. You shouldn't use 40 vol. It's not worth the risk. You can use it hundreds of times, but there's the danger of that one time where your hair breaks off or your burn your scalp very badly (even without using it twice in a row).
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« Reply #154 on: 12 Aug 13 / 02:32 PM »
Yiiiikes. I think I'll chalk this one up to language barrier. :<

My hair has faded to a lilacy purple/yellow so I went to get my hair bleached so I could re-color. It's been three and a half months since my last bleaching. My last hairdresser was very cautious and for that I thank her. when she bleached my hair it usually didn't lift much. Heck, I would get excited when I saw a golden yellow- never saw white.

Went to a Finnish hairstylist and struggled to tell her what I wanted despite the fact she didn't know much English. I had a friend detail what I wanted in Finnish for her to read via a text message. She seemed at ease after reading it so she got to work. With foils in, I was placed under a heating device. Thing is, I REALLY should've been timing the process on my own. She was really slow on foils, began brushing the bleach on from top to bottom and she kept checking and going 'only couple more minutes'. In hindsight, I think she thought I wanted my hair to be white, and was worried I'd be mad if it wasn't. She kept saying 'need to take off green then yellow, yes?'

I could tell right after the rinse my hair was fried. It was gummy to the touch, mashed together and strands started coming off when I combed my fingers through it. She said she had to blowdry it and oh...seeing it dry was worse. It sticks out like hay and looks awful. They applied some Moroccan oil over the pieces on the house and gave me a discount, but damn. I'm on the verge of tears. I'll be heading over to the rest of this thread to see if I can apply any emergency treatments now that I'm home.
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« Reply #155 on: 08 Sep 13 / 11:45 PM »
I'm growing my bleach out after not being careful enough to only do the roots and it breaking off. I then didn't realise that going swimming on holiday in a chlorinated pool would affect my hair. I now have 3 inches of mid-brown healthy roots, but a job interview on the 17th September. I have a short bob, cut by me since the breakage as I don't trust hairdressers not to yank a comb through and break more off.

So I guess I need to find a harmless temporary mid-brown colour to dye the remaining bleached hair for the interview. What do people recommend? A hairdresser once told me that black permanent hair dye adds colour rather than takes it away, but I've looked at the ingredients and it's got hydrogen peroxide in, which I daren't use. What can I find quickly in a high street shop in the UK?

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« Reply #156 on: 09 Sep 13 / 09:16 AM »
I'd recommend an Adore dye - they do some lovely natural shades :)
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« Reply #157 on: 09 Sep 13 / 10:28 PM »
Thank you, I've ordered a couple online and hopefully they'll arriving time.
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Re: Share your Bleaching Horror Stories
« Reply #158 on: 09 Sep 13 / 10:30 PM »
I don't think you'll be disappointed with the Adore dyes.  I've used several on myself and my teenaged daughter now.  We love them - natural or bright.  They're wonderful!  :D
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« Reply #159 on: 02 Nov 13 / 02:14 PM »
This may not be as much of a "horror" as it could have been, but I did have to share my experience at the salon.  One of the reasons I don't trust salons!  Mind you, if it were any stylist on this board, I'd trust 100% because you all know your stuff.  My stylist obviously did not...  -r-


It was not the same stylist who gave me the consultation about a month back, so I had to re-explain the reason for the dip dye: to lighten the lengths and blend in with the colour level on top.  She understood.  I told her I'd applied coconut oil, and she immediately said "I have to wash your hair now", to which I replied "no, the bleach should work over the oil", and she was fine with that.

She went to mix the bleach, which was a blue at 20%, and nothing fancy, just L'Orťal but I suppose a bleach is a bleach is a bleach.  She sectioned my hair off (back v sides) and started applying to the back, in small sections.  I took note of the time she started applying the bleach.

I thought she was working a bit too slowly, and I was getting a little nervous because 30 minutes later, she was still applying, to the back!  You have to be QUICK with bleach, and I'd expect ALL stylists to know that.  I kept asking to check the ends in the back to make sure they were not falling off yet.  I really could not find a nice way of saying "will you kindly hurry the h*ll up, this is BLEACH!"

Application finished about 10 minutes later, and she said she'd cover it and let it develop for 5 - 10 minutes.  I said "okay".  I must have looked like an idiot in front of all the other posh women getting their hair done, constantly getting up from my seat to peek through the plastic wrap and checking the ends.  She came back to check the progress, then started doing touch-ups with more bleach!  She said the bleach wasn't working, and she blamed the poor coconut oil.

She finally sent me to rinse and told the girl doing the rinse that the back is ready but the sides need another 5 minutes.  By that point, I knew I'd have loads to deal with in terms of damage, so what's another 5!?


So to sum up, what I think I know better: work quickly with bleach, begin timing the minute the bleach hits the hair, use a high enough strength (maybe 20% was too low) so the bleach doesn't sit on the hair for an entire hour, and do it right the first time - don't go touching up with more bleach when the original bleach should have long been rinsed out!


I'm left with really dry hair that feels fragile (didn't even feel like it could take a brushing with a boar bristle!), but the colour did lift a bit, so I sort of got one step closer to the blonde I'm after.  And I know exactly what I have to do now: I'm sitting with a reconstructor, will rinse it off then moisturise, then leave it alone.

I know my hair, it's been worse, and I know how to baby it now. :-*

And in future, I will consult this board and do my next procedure at home, not at a salon (unless I can come to one of yours  :) ).

And "hands off" peroxide now till next month.  -r-
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Re: Share your Bleaching Horror Stories
« Reply #160 on: 02 Nov 13 / 03:16 PM »
Alexia, I hate to say this... but honestly.  With all the time you spend here, and with all you seem to say you know about bleaching... after everything you've read and the advice you've been given... all I have to say is: we told you so.  You knew the risks and you took them.  I personally don't think you have much room to complain.
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« Reply #161 on: 02 Nov 13 / 03:23 PM »
Alexia, I hate to say this... but honestly.  With all the time you spend here, and with all you seem to say you know about bleaching... after everything you've read and the advice you've been given... all I have to say is: we told you so.  You knew the risks and you took them.  I personally don't think you have much room to complain.

Thanks anyway, but I prepped with all the advice from this forum, which was all brilliant advice.  The risk I took was to trust a salon.  And I didn't ask here "should I go to a salon?", so no one here is to blame.


Unless I'm missing something completely or didn't explain well enough, but I don't get it.


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Also, I don't think I've claimed to know so much about bleaching, that's why I thought I asked too many questions about it before this procedure so I could understand more!  And everyone was so very helpful ...
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Re: Share your Bleaching Horror Stories
« Reply #162 on: 02 Nov 13 / 03:37 PM »
You are posting in the bleaching horror stories thread, which I assume you've read, no?  There are countless numbers of people before you who have shared how their trip to see the hairdressers went drastically wrong... which is why you wanted to be "informed" before your trip.  The advice here is pretty consistent - we don't trust hairdressers with bleach.  No, you didn't ask if you should go.  No, you weren't specifically told not to.  Your questions on the forum have read (to me) that you anticipated it could go horribly would means you knew the risks.  Your own recalling of your trip and what you claim to have learned about the bleaching process (so you could know when things might be going badly) speaks for itself. Armed with the knowledge you gleaned here... you made the choice to go to a hairdresser for bleach.  Understand?  I'm not trying to be snarky.  Really.
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« Reply #163 on: 02 Nov 13 / 03:41 PM »
True, you didn't ask about trusting a stylist, however, a lot of threads on here (including this one) talk about how little stylists really know about bleach, and how they often screw it up and fry people's hair.  The only way I'd trust a stylist is if I asked someone with really healthy bleached hair where they go to get it done and what products they use (if they're using products packed with silicones, then the hair might still be wrecked).  I personally wouldn't trust one off of Groupon.

If your ends are as fragile as they sound like they are, then you might have to give up on lightening them any further, unfortunately.  I know you say your hair has been worse, but repeatedly bleaching it is going to make it worse than it is; no matter how many K-Pak and coconut oilings you do, bleaching always causes some level of damage, and if your hair is near its limit, it's best not to push it trying to find just where that fine line is.
 

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« Reply #164 on: 02 Nov 13 / 04:41 PM »
@Alexia that really sucks. They obviously werent very experienced. But even stylists with a lot of time under their belt can still fry hair + not be aware of things like coconut oil. They often get set in their ways + dont take the hairs integrity as a priority.

It really sounds like she just took too long + the bleach dried out, so it was still damaging your hair but it wasnt really lightening it anymore, because 20 should have been enough if it were done quickly (10-15 mins tops was all it should have taken to only do your lengths/ends) and left to set, covered for another 15 minutes or so, maybe 20.

Your hair is going to feel more damaged at first because its drier. But wait a few weeks and take care of it + see how it feels then, and id probably get a trim. If it feels like it can withstand it, wait another week and do a 20 vol bleach bath at home. It really isnt hard, you just need to make sure its applied quickly + covered so it stays moist + warm.

Im really sorry to hear it didnt work out. I dont trust anybody with my hair at all. My old stylist moved to the other side of the country, then my best friend from beauty school died a few years ago. I tried 3 people i thought i coild trust after that, my ex boss to bleach, another ex boss to cut, and a fellow stylist to color. They all turned out awful. Ive sworn off ever getting my hair done by anyone else. I really would just do it at home from now on, whatever the process. That way you know exactly what youre using, can control the timing, youl have control over everything. And everyone here is here to help if you run into a snag of some sort :-)
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« Reply #165 on: 02 Nov 13 / 06:29 PM »
Ah you'd think the bosses would know. Mine left 40vol under extra hot heat (I did think it was rather warm...) and the bleach went to liquid and poured out the meche

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« Reply #166 on: 02 Nov 13 / 07:04 PM »
Cupcake and Intempestivity:

For what itís worthÖ why did I choose to go to a salon?

Not to mention the 2 cm of dark roots that have grown in over the last six-odd weeks, beneath that I had about another 2-3 cm of lighter hair from blonding dyes, hair that never had any dark brown dyes on it.  The dark brown bit beneath that layer faded quite a lot, but not enough, and I really did not feel I could reach behind my head and fix that Ďproblemí on my own.  I know no friends who would have been willing to do it for me, and I donít have a regular stylist because Iím always doing my own hair.  So a Groupon is really as good a chance as any if youíre going to get it done by someone else!

Mind you, had I read all the pages in this thread about horror stories of bleaching, Iím so hard-nosed and impulsive (ha ha), I would probably not have changed my plans anyway.  I tend to spend my time here reading ďhow toĒ, because everyone knows there are so many bleaching horrors.  At the very least, I hoped to be as armed and knowledgeable as possible before the treatment.  Of course I secretly hoped I would not have a horror story, but it isnít as bad as I thought.*

And about risksÖ if not being able to concentrate at all the last two days at work, feeling sick to my stomach on Friday, waking up in the middle of the night last night, and crying to my partner yesterday evening, asking him if heíd still love me even if my hair fried all off (ha ha), I donít know how much more I could have been aware of the risks.


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Thanks for your understanding and similar stories you experienced.  Yes, I could not believe how slow she was!  I do finance for a living, and there are such things as fundamentals.  If you donít get the fundamentals right and slip up, in my experience, it is a serious mistake!  So, as I donít know everything about bleaching, Iíve certainly done loads of reading and done many successful highlights on myself, and one of the fundamentals (I would imagine it is a Ďfundamentalí) is not to let bleach dry out on the hair, to make sure you cover it up quickly to start the developing and timing.

I did expect that to be a no-brainer, so I cannot really believe they let people work in salons that donít follow some of the basics.  It really surprised me!  And for your bosses to slip up so badly as well, that really says a lot.  Do they think - "it's not my hair, so I'm not really be fussed", or do they just forget or become lazy... I wonder.


* Want to report that Iím not too displeased after all.  I think you were right, Katie, that my hair was in sort of a state of shock when I first got home.  I really felt it needed some of the treatments that make my hair happiest.  Iíve been able to work back a shine, and the colour is indeed one small step closer to what Iím trying to achieve.  I will treat it very kindly now and try out some bleach baths in a month or so.


I expected to experience some sort of damage from the treatment, but I'm glad it turned out to be seemingly minimal at the moment, and I donít think I even need to trim it yetÖ the coconut oil must have done something right!
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« Reply #167 on: 02 Nov 13 / 07:31 PM »
Being that you used coconut oil + i know youve been really babying your hair + she used 20 only the bottom back had it on for 55 mins and the rest just less and less, from the state you said your hair was in before it really shouldnt be too bad. Bleach strips pretty much everything out of the haor so its normal to feel a tad worse after than you think it should. After a protein + moisturizing treatment + a vinegar rinse or just a bit of time for the cuticle to go back down, youl see the true condition of it.

And ya, my one boss put freaking 50 vol on my already kinda fragile fine hair for an hour, when i told her to use 20+30. After my "hair" was clumping off i went crying in the back room + saw the 50 vol on the counter. I later found out the bitch wasnt even licensed! She made a fake one to hang up! And it was a very posh, ritzy, expensive salon. Then my other boss who cut my hair grabbed basically all the hair on the top of my head + cut it like, 4 inches long. I wanted a solid side bang not a freaking disconnected mullet. When i was in cos school i worked at an aveda salon as a receptionist + assistant + the owner there who had back to back clients, i later found out wasnt licensed either! She did an apprenticeship up to like, 800 hours + idk a bunch of drama happened + supposedly her mentor destroyed all her records or whatever. Idk, that could have been a lie too. Not suprisingly though, a while after i quit these places all 3 went out of business.

I think keeping the bleach moist is a no brainer, especially for a stylist, its like bleaching 101. But a lot of stylists dont seem to understand this for some reason? Ive seen stylists do root retouches with a 40 and put them under a dryer uncovered. Its insane. I think a lot of stylists are too confident + think they know everything because their cuts are good, or theyre fast or whatever. Ive quit a couple salons bc the stylists suck, fry peoples hair or give them a crap cut or color, then i always fix it. But the salon gets a bad rep then whether i fix it or not, then business slows down + the boss wonders why. Im not saying im the best stylist in the world, il be the first one to admit i dont know something + ask. A lot of stylists wont ask for help though or advice + thats a big problem. I think theyre afraid theyl look stupid or like a bad stylist if they dont know something + ask for help. I think NOT asking makes them look stupid + ignorant.
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« Reply #168 on: 02 Nov 13 / 07:39 PM »
What you have to understand about UK hairstylists. There are no regulations. Some are self regulated I believe, but there are no licences. Anyone can set up to be a hairdresser and most do it on cutting ability. Many don't have enough knowledge on chemicals and how they work and most don't keep up with changes and really understand new products are doing.

I do have to say though, groupon really isn't a great way to pick a salon :)
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« Reply #169 on: 02 Nov 13 / 09:06 PM »
Oh wow i did not know that theres no licenses in the UK. Wow, i would be terrified to go anywhere. So just anybody at all could be a stylist, theres no mandated education or number of practical hours they have to have? Here in michigan you have to have 1,500 hours, i think 350 of which is in the classroom on theory, anatomy, colors, levels, chemistry, etc, practicing on mannequins, then the rest of the time is on the clinic floor working on clients + about 10 -15 different daily things you have to do whether its on a client or a mannequin, like a particular roller set, full head perm roll, an updo, allover foils, etc + you have to have an instrucror check every thing youve done + if its not up to par you have to redo it. Theres a # of times you have to do each service to graduate, like 300 colors, 200 hilights, 250 cuts or whatever the numbers were....its been a while lol. Theres classroom work every month or so for half of the day too, with more "advanced" education. Then once you graduate you go to take your state boards. One day you take your practical, which is a manicure, a partial perm, a cut, a partial color application, and maybe a couple more things, i cant remember. But everything has to be done in certain steps, and sanitizing is a huge factor of every part. Then you go for your written, which is 100 questions. I think, but dont quote me on it, you needat least a 75% to pass + get your license. It could be 70 or 80 though, i cant remember. youd think after even all that practice these girls would be a little more knowledgeable, but a lot of the time theyre just taking the course as a free vocational through high school to bump up their grade point average + they just do minimal work. Theyl try to just skate their way through + they get sick of it since you go 6 days a week.
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« Reply #170 on: 02 Nov 13 / 09:26 PM »
All that exists. All the lessons etc. I did if back in 89-92 (was terrified of cutting so didn't take it further). So yes, there are exams and most salons will make sure their juniors do them and all academic and practical work. But yes, anyone can set up as a hairdresser.

I do think in recent years some councils require hair dressers to comply with health and safety regs and register, but I think that's because if the rise in beautician treatments in small salons.
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« Reply #171 on: 02 Nov 13 / 09:34 PM »
But when you say its not regulated + theres no licenses, do you mean that theres no actual laws stating that you need education + training, etc? That its really just certain salons themselves that require it on their own terms?
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« Reply #172 on: 02 Nov 13 / 09:41 PM »
Exactly. The only real regs from the government are for the normal health and safety.
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« Reply #173 on: 02 Nov 13 / 09:49 PM »
Yep.  My salon (as in, the salon I visit, I don't work in a salon) insists on all of their stylists being certified, but you don't have to.  I once saw a woman come in and another hairdresser's up the road had cut steps in to her hair when she asked for layers.  The stylist had obviously done a blunt cut, went up the back of her scalp about an inch, did another blunt cut, all the way up to this woman's ears.  She was in tears.  The owner of my salon was furious, and the fact that just anyone can call themselves a hairdresser and then proceed to butcher people's hair makes him really angry.

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Re: Share your Bleaching Horror Stories
« Reply #174 on: 02 Nov 13 / 11:44 PM »
I would be angry too! Jeez. Well, i learned something new today, thanks for answering all my questions :)
Always remember to consider what your hair is going to feel like after processing it BEFORE you do it! Test strands, treatments/oils are important when it comes to hair, but the most important thing is patience!
 

 

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