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Ilex

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Re: Colour B4 Information
« Reply #100 on: 25 Nov 12 / 11:51 AM »
- No, shouldn't make any difference - it's just to return the hair to the pH (after starting a PhD I now want to write that 'Ph...') it should be at. Just as a word of warning it can be very drying, so try to make sure your hair isn't very tangly before you apply it because it will be really hard to wash out properly if it is.

-You can apply the turq straight after. In fact I'm guessing your hair will be a little bit dry after the color off, which will help your hair to suck up the colour.

- You can do another straight away, but it's usually a good idea to wait a few days (Scott Cornwall says 72 hours but I have seen a week mentioned, too). This is to give your hair time to stabilise, any re-oxidation to occur, and your natural oils to come back in before you clarify it again. Then wash your hair, dry it, and put the colour remover on.
 

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Re: Colour B4 Information
« Reply #101 on: 25 Nov 12 / 11:52 AM »
As  I don't know that brand, it's hard to say for sure. Most of the info should be on or in the pack about how many times you can use it. But it depends if it has peroxide.

I would guess, but can not be sure at all, that you'd have no problems with turquoise after as I can't see a reason for it to deposit anything into the hair to prevent or block colour taking.

If it's like Colour B4 (and again, as I don't know I can't say for sure), you can use turquoise straight away. It's dyes with peroxide or bleach that you should avoid using straight away.
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« Reply #102 on: 25 Nov 12 / 12:13 PM »
oh thank you ladies for your fast answer!

i just read the ingredients and there is "hydrogen peroxyd" but just in 3rd bottle: the stabiliser,
 not in the two bottle of "color off"!

and they say i can do it twice.

and they say not to bleach the hair after that...

but if (i say if because perhaps it would be enough or not, we'll see) it's not fade enough (i have red hair and want turquoise hair), and i wait a weeks, can i do a bleach bath?

i'm sorry for all the questions...  *gun*

This forum is so helpful for me!! there's no french forum like this where people talk about hair dye and all that stuff like you, no place no talk about our crazy hair! so i'm glad i found you  *thx*  *1*
 

Ilex

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« Reply #103 on: 25 Nov 12 / 12:19 PM »
Is it definitely Hydrogen Peroxide and not Sodium Hydrogen Phosphate? In which case I would definitely wait a week before repeating/trying a bleach bath, if not a bit longer (if you can stand it!).

Weird. I wonder why there's peroxide in it?

Is it this stuff? http://www.vitalitys.it/en/colore/color-off.html
 

neva

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« Reply #104 on: 25 Nov 12 / 12:26 PM »
yes it's this stuff!

there's so many weird ingredients in it, i don't understand anything!

so i took a picture to show you:
(there's 3 bottles)


Photo 25-11-12 13 19 51 by so wicked trendy, on Flickr
 

Ilex

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« Reply #105 on: 25 Nov 12 / 01:05 PM »
I've not done chemistry in a while, but that looks quite different actually from colourb4 (http://www.tesco.com/groceries/Product/Details/?id=266441865). I'd treat it as though it were a bleach product, so wait a week before you do anything else to it other than vegi dye/condition.
 

neva

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« Reply #106 on: 25 Nov 12 / 01:35 PM »
ok thank u Ilex :)

i think i'll do the first try this afternoon, (and maybe the second if necessary),
and if i have to do a bleach bath i'll wait next week like you said :)
(and during the week, coconut oil coconut oil coconut oil^^)

hope it won't be a weird color!
 

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« Reply #107 on: 25 Nov 12 / 01:36 PM »
If it has hydrogen peroxide, then it's definitely a colour stripper and not a colour remover, so you need to wait a month after using it before using any other peroxide based product.

But you *can* put a veggie dye in straight after, just no more strippers, permanent dye, bleach or bleach bathing.
 

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« Reply #108 on: 25 Nov 12 / 01:38 PM »
hmmm ok thank u.
 it's complicated!
and i'm a little bit impatient... :/
 

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« Reply #109 on: 25 Nov 12 / 02:22 PM »
That is exactly what I was worried about! I'm glad you checked :)
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« Reply #110 on: 25 Nov 12 / 02:52 PM »
you are like a chemist!
(and i'm watching breaking bad, i'm thinking about hair stuff in the same time xD)
 

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« Reply #111 on: 28 Nov 12 / 05:27 PM »
I'm planning my Jo Bazz experiment on Friday night...... i have the FEAR!

So do you recommend a clarifying shampoo before? What about for the next few days?
 

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« Reply #112 on: 14 Jan 13 / 09:42 PM »
Hi, I used Colour B4 just before the end of December, then did a bleach bath yesterday (photos and stuff on the thread I started which mentions mint green in the title...) but am wondering whether I should give the Colour B4 another go. I had put purple dye (which came out mostly black) on top of bleached/Midnight Blued ends and an inch or so of roots twice or three times toward the end of last year (I think maybe... late Sept, late Oct and mid Dec?) and my hair's about shoulder length/top layer comes to my ear, so I'd think there should really be some blonde(ish) hair at the ends. The bit from roughly ear down was sort of dirty-blonde/slightly greenish when I first used the Colour B4, and I used a demi-permanent dark blonde over the whole lot a couple of days after Colour B4. But on the red areas, it gets darker toward the ends.

Anyway, tl;dr version: is it worth another application of Colour B4, do you think? I can't really afford to waste the money, but just as importantly, I can't afford to waste the physical energy involved in all that rinsing (disability stuff) if it's likely to make no real difference. I know you can't really tell without a strand test, but any opinions would be really helpful.
 

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« Reply #113 on: 15 Jan 13 / 08:20 AM »
Colour B4 isn't designed for semis--some have some luck with it and some don't.  I say if you can't afford it for a second time, don't do it because there's no garauntee it would do anything.
 

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« Reply #114 on: 15 Jan 13 / 08:24 AM »
Ah, well, it's more that I think maybe there's still permanent on it, explaining the red? Obv nobody can diagnose over the internet, but is is feasible that what I assumed was my actual underlying colour having gone coppery due to lightening in the perm colourant was actually still colour deposit? (Given that, thinking about it, the ends should have been bleach blonde, probably?)
 

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« Reply #115 on: 15 Jan 13 / 12:54 PM »
Ooh, sorry, I misread :)

You could try it again, but sometimes the red pigment in darker dyes stain the hair and are difficult to lift out, even with bleach.
 

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« Reply #116 on: 15 Jan 13 / 06:54 PM »
Ah, drat! Well, I've bought the Superdrug own brand equivalent thingy, will do a stand test. Trouble is, any hair I could feasibly snip off without it being obvious,  isn't actually red. Was thinking of sectioning off a stand of my fringe and strand testing that...
 

Iklekirstyalice

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« Reply #117 on: 15 Jan 13 / 08:59 PM »
hey guys i dyed my bleached hair pink a few months ago and now i am letting it fade as i want to go blonde again (hopefully white blonde) and i was wondering if colour b4 works as good on semi permanent dyes as it does on permanent dyes ?
 

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« Reply #118 on: 15 Jan 13 / 09:55 PM »
I'm having a hell of a job getting rid of my red dye, Stargazer over a virgin medium brown base. I've lost count of the number of clarifying shampoos I've done, as well as using anti-dandruff shampoo, a cheap version of lime Source shower gel and a mix of clarifying shampoo, lemon juice, lemon washing up liquid and bicarbonate of soda. All in all I must have washed it in one or another of these at least 20 times since dying, and in hot water every time, but it's barely faded beyond the first wash :(

I'm thinking now of trying Colour B4, but what are the chances of this working after a lot of force fading attempts? This is going to be a really expensive waste if I try it and it doesn't work :( I should mention also that I left the dye to develop for 10 hours and I think I read on here that veggie reds can sometimes permanently stain the hair, but is this only when applied to a bleached base or can it also permanently stain virgin hair? I'm really frustrated because I just want the dye gone now and my virgin hair back :( Having read that veggie dyes wash out of hair completely after 5 or 6 washes, leaving no trace, I am quite stumped as to why it's clinging so stubbornly, if not for the length of time I left it on...
 

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« Reply #119 on: 16 Jan 13 / 08:09 AM »
hey guys i dyed my bleached hair pink a few months ago and now i am letting it fade as i want to go blonde again (hopefully white blonde) and i was wondering if colour b4 works as good on semi permanent dyes as it does on permanent dyes ?

As stated earlier on this page of the thread, Colour B4 is not designed for semi dyes.  Some have luck with it, some don't, but it's a crapshoot.  A lot of people have had decent luck with Scott Cornwall's Decolour Remover lifting semis, though.  Be aware that pinks are *really* sticky (and some basically fuse to your hair and will never fully lift out), so your dreams of going platinum might have to wait until you grow out the pink.

I'm having a hell of a job getting rid of my red dye, Stargazer over a virgin medium brown base. I've lost count of the number of clarifying shampoos I've done, as well as using anti-dandruff shampoo, a cheap version of lime Source shower gel and a mix of clarifying shampoo, lemon juice, lemon washing up liquid and bicarbonate of soda. All in all I must have washed it in one or another of these at least 20 times since dying, and in hot water every time, but it's barely faded beyond the first wash :(

I'm thinking now of trying Colour B4, but what are the chances of this working after a lot of force fading attempts? This is going to be a really expensive waste if I try it and it doesn't work :( I should mention also that I left the dye to develop for 10 hours and I think I read on here that veggie reds can sometimes permanently stain the hair, but is this only when applied to a bleached base or can it also permanently stain virgin hair? I'm really frustrated because I just want the dye gone now and my virgin hair back :( Having read that veggie dyes wash out of hair completely after 5 or 6 washes, leaving no trace, I am quite stumped as to why it's clinging so stubbornly, if not for the length of time I left it on...

I've never a veggie red stain my roots, so I'm stumped as well.  The only thing I can think of is if there's a bit of weathering along your hair which made a little bit of a rough surface for the dye to grab on to?  Try Scott Cornwall's Decolour Remover; a lot of people have had luck with that and veggie dyes.
 

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« Reply #120 on: 20 Jan 13 / 05:15 AM »
Sorry if this question has been asked before, but does this only work on hair that was dyed recently? I'm trying to remove a dark brown dye from the ends of my hair because I want to go lighter. However, it was done at a salon about eight months ago, and I'm wondering whether this product work on something that was done that long ago.
 

Ilex

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« Reply #121 on: 20 Jan 13 / 10:36 AM »
Sorry if this question has been asked before, but does this only work on hair that was dyed recently? I'm trying to remove a dark brown dye from the ends of my hair because I want to go lighter. However, it was done at a salon about eight months ago, and I'm wondering whether this product work on something that was done that long ago.


Yes, absolutely! It won't lift quite as well as new dye, but there's a good chance it will do something, and unlike bleach it's not damaging.
 

Nana

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« Reply #122 on: 20 Jan 13 / 04:16 PM »
Sorry if this question has been asked before, but does this only work on hair that was dyed recently? I'm trying to remove a dark brown dye from the ends of my hair because I want to go lighter. However, it was done at a salon about eight months ago, and I'm wondering whether this product work on something that was done that long ago.


Yes, absolutely! It won't lift quite as well as new dye, but there's a good chance it will do something, and unlike bleach it's not damaging.
Thank you very much! :D
 

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« Reply #123 on: 20 Jan 13 / 11:36 PM »
This is very helpful!

I tried colourb4 today, and like an idiot, forgot to use the buffer before applying my new colour on top. Will this just mean my new colour won't take very well or is something more serious going to happen?!

Thanks! x
 

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« Reply #124 on: 07 Feb 13 / 03:14 PM »
Hey,
Basically I used colour b4 2weeks ago, it went mousy ginger ehich was fine, then dyed my hair with a casting creme gloss in amber...and it's gone almost black. Im assuming it has re oxidised(doh!), my question is, will using colour b4 again lift it? Or once it's reoxidised, is that it, I have to grow it out? Thanks in advance! Ax
 

 

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