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Hair breakage after bleaching
« on: 19 Aug 18 / 06:07 AM »
Hello everyone! *waves*

I have done a very stupid thing. I have dyed my hair at home every few months since the age of 13 (currently I am 22.) The first year I used to put blonde and later, for another 8 years dark (from dark brown to black.) I have never had any problems and my hair seemed to react pretty well to anything I put in. I have fairly thick, straight hair. In February this year I decided that I would like to try ginger as Iíve never had that before. I used colour removers three days in a row without any effect as the dye always reoxidated no matter how long I was rinsing it. My hair was a little bit dry but I never had the problem of my hair feeling like a straw (what most people say.) Thatís why I decided to use bleach. My friend helped me with it and we used bleaching kit Jerome Russel with powder and 40 vol. The dark was taken down and on the top of that I put ginger. Everything went well except burning of my scalp. My hair felt perfectly fine, they were soft and nice as always. I was quite happy with it for a bit when I tried to bleach my hair again about two months ago. I used 30 vol and hope Iíd go blonde and I used the bleach twice on the same day but with no result and so the day after I put ginger over it again. My hair felt fine as always once again.

Yesterday I bought lots of stuff hoping to finally become blonde again. I coated my hair in coconut oil as I heard it helps to save the hair while youíre bleaching it. I used 40 vol again and left it on for about 75 minutes (on the box it says up to 90). I put probably too much, I could still see some orange strands and wanted to get rid off them. During the first 20 minutes, the itching of my scalp was unbearable. I put more bleach onto it because I removed some by scratching and it surprisingly worked and the itching stopped. After I washed it down, the hair felt horrible but I didnít pay much attention. I washed my hair with 2 in 1 shampoo conditioner and dried my hair with hair dryer. At this point hair started coming out slightly but it wasnít too bad. It was however tangled that much that I couldnít brush it properly. After that I put on dye platinum from LíOreal and left on for 45 minutes. When I washed it off, I started noticing lots of my hair falling out. When i pulled them, lots of strands would just go. I started freaking out, scared that I would loose all of it. I dried my hair with cold air from hairdryer and tried to brush it however it didnít help. I also called my partnerís mum who always dyes her hair blonde and she told me to get lots of conditioner, leave over night and brush it with wide comb. I bought hair mask which is for chemically damaged hair and for hair breakage and put loads of it on. I tried to brush my hair with the comb, I did it very gently, and another handful of hair came out. With the rest I brushed or just pulled out earlier, I might have got out around 4 handfuls. My hair donít fall out completely, they donít come out of the scalp but they break. Sometimes the lightest touch will make them fall.

I left the mask on my hair overnight covered in a cling foil and a little hat.

Now, I would like to ask you what to do and how to fix my problem. How should I take proper care of my hair to stop the breakage? It the product I bought good enough or should I get some more? How often should I use it? Is there any hair routine to follow? Which shampoo and conditioners can I use and how often should I wash my hair? Can I ever use a hair dryer, at least the cold or medium heat air? I am going for holidays on Tuesday and I am afraid I will have to use hairdryer sometime.  When will the hair stop falling out? Could it help to go to a hairdresser to trim my hair? Can I use hair spray and similar products? When will I be able to dye my hair again without putting them in danger? (I promise I will go to a proper salon next time!)

I tried to attach the photos of my hair and the mask I am using but it doesnít seem to work (it says the images are too large). If anyone wants, I can post them some other way.

Thank you so much for your advice,

Kristyna
 

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Re: Hair breakage after bleaching
« Reply #1 on: 19 Aug 18 / 08:00 AM »
Iím so sorry, but your hair is almost certainly past saving. Youíre going to do the best thing by having the majority cut off. Iíll come back to that though.

Thereís been some hard lessons learnt here. For your reference in the future and anyone else reading...

1. Never use 40 volume, but especially never use it on hair thatís already bleached. This I have to emphasise, itís horrible stuff.

2. You were never going to get blonde easily because your hair was stained from so many years of dark dye. It needed months of very gradual lightening with mild bleach baths giving at least a month in between to make sure the hair was still in good condition. All this should only be a last resort if dye removers fail (as yours did).

3. You need a better bleach than Jerome Russell. Itís just not very good which is why it needs 40 vol to get any results. A good bleach powder will give you the same lift or better with a 20 vol peroxide and be less damaging, especially to your scalp.

4. You need to be very careful when scratching your head with bleach on. You can easily break the skin which leaves you open to even worse chemical burns. 40 vol is extremely likely to cause bad burns anyway and should never, ever be used on the scalp (at best it should only ever be used for highlights). It makes me so angry that 40 vol is the only one available in Boots etc most of the time. If used badly it can cause permanent damage to the root of the hair, hair wonít grow out of scar tissue :( Look for the better bleach powders and lower volume peroxide in Sallyís or Amazon. You canít always get the best bleach powders, but you can get far better ones.

5. Iím very concerned that it said 90 minutes. Bleach generally doesnít stay active for longer than 90 minutes and, when you take into account the length of time it takes to apply, then that means a lot of time on your hair where itís not actively removing pigment but itís still damaging hair. Most bleaches say 60 mins max for that reason. So, never leave any bleach on for longer than 60 mins regardless of what the instructions say.

Ok, so what can you do now? As I said, the most productive and cheapest (youíll spend a ton doing it any other way) is going and getting a fun short haircut which hopefully immediately cuts out all the damage.

Really donít want to do that straight away? I know, most people donít want to cut it off, but I can tell you itís less heartbreaking in the long run, but I get it. Even though I never have my hair longer than my shoulders, I still know itís tough to get a haircut when you donít want one. So Iíll go through some of your options.

Donít get olaplex. If you are given that as a suggestion elsewhere, donít do it. Itís scarily expensive and if your hair is too far gone itís not going to help. I know some claim it does, but theyíre either lying deliberately or just feeling the after affects of a sleek blow dry which can make hair feel better for a while. Donít go down that root. It only works for hair thatís a bit damaged. Itíll be good for when you inevitably forget this experience and go bleach happy in the future ;) (though, keep in mind itís not a miracle and over bleach8ng with olaplex will still result in mass breakage).

Do try some Aphogee 2 step protein treatment. Itís fairly cheap and should help quite a bit, itís not a miracle and youíll need to redo it every few weeks (donít be tempted to do it too often, I can speak from experience that over using protein is almost as bad as bleach damage, thankfully itís more easily reversed). Make sure you get the pack with the conditioner included.

I think you ca; guess the other stuff Iím going to say.

Wash as little as possible. Once a week is best. Use cool water. Try conditioner only washing as well.

Thereís been some evidence recently that blow drying is actually better than air drying. HOWEVER, only if you move the hair around a lot, leaving it in one place damages, so it has to be blown randomly around if that makes sense. This really only works if yo7 have naturally straight hair that isnít prone to fuzz. And should definitely only be done on the coolest setting. Of none of these apply, donít blow dry. Put your hair up if you have to, but avoid blow drying because pulling the hair straight with a brush and blowdrying it (even though it might feel better in the short term) will damage it.

You can use hairspray and other product, but be sparing. As you need to make your hair last as long as possible between washes and preferably use less detergents (in shampoo) you really need to use as little as possible. You also want to avoid making it more brittle, which hairspray can do, as when you brush or comb it can cause more breakage.

Itís impossible to say if itíll stop breaking (I avoid using the term falling out, because itís not doing that). It really depends if every single strand is so damaged itís inevitably going to break at some point. This is why my first suggestion is always get it cut off as itís the least painful in the long run. The problem with damage in the hair shaft is it can travel up the hair, especially where the hair has broken off already. So the longer you leave it the worse it can get. This means if you leave it then the damage can be creeping up the hair and if you do eventually decide to get it cut it might have to be even shorter than youíd have to originally or at least as short as it would have been originally, only it could have grown out more by that point (I hope that makes sense, itís a difficult one to explain!).

Do get a good healthy trim even if you wonít cut it short. It probably wonít make a lot of difference, but itíll hopefully get rid of some of the worst areas that tangle which will still help.

You donít have to go to a salon. Unfortunately some of our worst bleaching horror stories come from salons. But you do need some good, solid, basic knowledge behind you :)

So, to sum up. Best course of action, a good hair cut to get rid of the worst damage. Failing that, only blow dry occasionally and only ever on the coolest setting. Avoid too much product of any kind. Wash much less often. Try conditioner only washing.

Oh, and lastly, avoid silicones, especially non-water soluble ones (you can find lists of non silicone conditioners online). Theyíll make your hair feel better temporarily, but it also blocks protein and moisture getting in somthe condition actually gets worse, all it does is smooth down the cuticle to make it feel better. Get some jojoba oil, I get it on amazon, 100% natural oil, doesnít have to be organic. Donít use the Moroccan oils or most serums around at the moment, theyíre mostly stuff full of silicones.

Hopefully Iíve not missed too much, itís a lot to type! Feel free to ask any questions :)
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Re: Hair breakage after bleaching
« Reply #2 on: 19 Aug 18 / 05:56 PM »
To Janineb: Thank you so much! I went to the hairdressers in the end today because I was really desperate. My hair felt as if sticky, I couldnít even touch it, not even mentioning brushing it which felt impossible. So much more hair came out. I am so happy I went because what she did with my hair I find amazing. It looks so much better, it is not even that short but whatís important, itís not breaking anymore. I think she brushed what was meant to come off and i lost at least 1/3 of my hair (what I mean here is the thickness, the lenghts went only by 2 inches rougly)  which is really bad and it sucks but they will grow back. And I have quite lots od hair so it doesnít look as bad. Thank god for that. She also suggested some products which she also used in the salon, it was Redken anti snap. She also put lots of things on when she was washing it and I canít say what it was because she used like 5 different things. But it seems it worked pretty well. My hair obviously still feels very dry and damaged but I can go through it with my hand and it goes easily out. It doesnít get stuck there. And most importantly, no more hair is coming off even when I pull it. Hopefully it will stay like this. Now Iím going to take a proper care of it. Iíve never actually realized the importance of my hair before.  ::)

I have attached the photo of my hair now!
 

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Re: Hair breakage after bleaching
« Reply #3 on: 19 Aug 18 / 06:04 PM »
You have lovely thick hair, so that helps a lot :D

The thing is, Redkin Anti Snap is full of silicone, that's why your hair feels better. It isn't though, it's just patched up with, effectively, plastic. It's the kind that might be next to impossible to remove, especially if high heat is used on it. It requires the use of very harsh shampoo to remove it and it builds up easily. The best case is, it'll wash out when you use a shampoo and it'll be back to how it was. If you reuse it then you run the risk of heavy build up and that can be a pain. Meanwhile, your hair condition could well be getting worse as any protein or moisture you use won't get through the silicone.
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