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nightberry

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It's gone orange... Can this be washed out?
« on: 18 Jul 16 / 11:04 PM »
Hi, all! I'm back again with a new tale of woe.

Hair timeline:
  • 4 weeks ago: Bleached mostly virgin hair with 30 Vol Flash Lightening Kit, dyed over with Manic Panic Sea Nymph. Went from level 5-ish to 8-ish.
  • 3 weeks ago: After "toning" with MP Purple Haze, fully dye hair with Purple Haze.
  • Yesterday: Hair had faded to a natural-looking light blonde with some grayish-purple lowlights (much more faded than in the third photo down).
  • Today: Did a bleach bath using Wella bleach, 10 Volume Ion developer, and Suave Shea Moisture shampoo (no dyes).
It's hard to see in the last pic (the one from today, with the trees in the background), but there's a strange orange/yellow/pink cast to my hair. Did that come from the purple haze? It was a very grayish purple. The bleach bath also turned the tiniest bit pinkish after I added the shampoo.

I called the salon, and they said they couldn't lift the color out or risk breakage. They can only offer me toning (which would darken it, I don't want that) and the Olaplex treatment.

Ultimately, I wanted white-blonde hair that I could put some pastel lowlights in. Now I would just settle for how it looked when I first bleached it....

How can I get rid of this orange cast? Will it come out with shampoo?

Thank you!
 

Wicked Pixie

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Re: It's gone orange... Can this be washed out?
« Reply #1 on: 19 Jul 16 / 12:36 AM »
Purple direct dyes either go green or pink when bleached. I think Purple haze goes pink, so the orange tones that you are seeing are probably from the remaining purple dye over your yellow base.
So a few shampoos should get it out, dandruff or clarifying shampoo is best. A sulphate based purple shampoo such as Touch of Silver is also pretty good at stripping out dye and adding cool tones.
A blue based purple, rather than a pink based one is best for toning brassy hair.
 

nightberry

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Re: It's gone orange... Can this be washed out?
« Reply #2 on: 19 Jul 16 / 12:55 AM »
Thank you! I'll go out and get that Touch of Silver you mentioned, as well as some dandruff shampoo. Would it be okay to get Olaplex before I have it faded out, or would it 'seal' the color in?
 

Wicked Pixie

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Re: It's gone orange... Can this be washed out?
« Reply #3 on: 19 Jul 16 / 01:13 AM »
Olaplex doesn't leave any residue on the hair, it isn't a conditioning product. It won't affect the colour at all
 

nightberry

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Re: It's gone orange... Can this be washed out?
« Reply #4 on: 21 Jul 16 / 07:31 AM »
Sorry for the bother, one more question... So I'm planning on using the T18 Wella toner (will strand test first) to bring my hair closer to white, but is it better to do this before or after Olaplex?

I don't know anything about this stuff, but my thinking is if I tone before olaplex, the cuticles are already lifted and then ola will smooth out the damage afterwards. But if I do ola first, then my cuticles would be smoother and less likely to come out unevenly (since the bottom half of my hair is more damaged than the top).

Any advice on this front? And again, thank you SO MUCH for your help. (<3<3)
 

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Re: It's gone orange... Can this be washed out?
« Reply #5 on: 21 Jul 16 / 07:39 AM »
You can put it in the toner. If your hair isn't a very pale yellow though, it's not going to do anything much so it's not really worth it.

And peroxide that you put in the toner will lift the cuticle regardless of using Olapex or not.

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Re: It's gone orange... Can this be washed out?
« Reply #6 on: 21 Jul 16 / 08:07 AM »
Hmm, well it is quite pale IMO. I'm mostly trying to get those red/pink pigments out. I actually really liked the weird slightly green blonde I had before. Fingers crossed that the T18 will do that (remove the red).
 

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Re: It's gone orange... Can this be washed out?
« Reply #7 on: 21 Jul 16 / 08:23 AM »
Most likely it won't. It's not made to remove pigment, so it's just luck if it does. It's also only going to tone the yellow, it won't tone the pink or red.

If your hair is still the same colour as the last photo, it's too dark for t18 to do anything.
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Re: It's gone orange... Can this be washed out?
« Reply #8 on: 21 Jul 16 / 09:18 AM »
Okay. I'm going to try the T14 tomorrow then.
 

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Re: It's gone orange... Can this be washed out?
« Reply #9 on: 21 Jul 16 / 09:51 AM »
The same applies for T14. A blonde/white toner isn't going to do what you want it to do.
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Re: It's gone orange... Can this be washed out?
« Reply #10 on: 21 Jul 16 / 10:03 AM »
Okaaayyyy...so. Purple shampoos and conditioners are my only option?
 

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Re: It's gone orange... Can this be washed out?
« Reply #11 on: 21 Jul 16 / 10:08 AM »
At least they won't add damage like the toners will. The pay off for damage ratio is far more acceptable with the Touch of Silver shampoo. There's also clarifying and dandruff shampoos. They just won't add the cool tone.
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Re: It's gone orange... Can this be washed out?
« Reply #12 on: 21 Jul 16 / 08:24 PM »
Sorry for the bother, one more question... So I'm planning on using the T18 Wella toner (will strand test first) to bring my hair closer to white, but is it better to do this before or after Olaplex?

I don't know anything about this stuff, but my thinking is if I tone before olaplex, the cuticles are already lifted and then ola will smooth out the damage afterwards. But if I do ola first, then my cuticles would be smoother and less likely to come out unevenly (since the bottom half of my hair is more damaged than the top).

Any advice on this front? And again, thank you SO MUCH for your help. (<3<3)

This is not how Olaplex works, it is not a conditioner. It has no effect on the cuticles it only links broken disulphide bonds which are part of the inner structure.
If you use an oxidative toner definitely add the olaplex, but I agree with Janine, it will cause too much damage for the amount of toning you get. Those toners contain high levels of ammonia which is extremely damaging on bleached hair, and they are designed to be used on light blonde hair only.
 

 

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