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Advice about red
« on: 26 Jun 16 / 12:03 PM »
Can't upload photos on my phone so I dyed my hair vermillion red diluted then it faded I. The week and my nuclear red arrived so ive now used it twice in the last 2 weeks. It seems to be fading more at the front. I'm letting my roots grow out to.
Is there anything I can do to keep it red red?
Special effects normally lasts me 5-6 weeks x
 

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Re: Advice about red
« Reply #1 on: 26 Jun 16 / 01:35 PM »
Unless they've drastically changed the formula in the past year since I used Nuclear Red it should be pretty long lasting - I used to get about 6 - 8 weeks from it. Is the front of your hair perhaps more damaged? (like do you straighten your fringe more than the rest of your hair or anything?) if your hair gets really porous it can lose colour faster. Other than that, could you have had a build up of products in that area before applying the colour? Maybe wash with a clarifying shampoo a few times then try again?
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Re: Advice about red
« Reply #2 on: 26 Jun 16 / 06:14 PM »
Well I bleached about two months ago and went pinks and purple  then I used a colour remover and it went light greenish to Blue.  Then I used the red over it. I only really straighten my fringe. I might have ago at that though. Which shampoo can u get from supermarket that's clarifying shampoo? I got one from sallys ages ago but was expensive.
 

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Re: Advice about red
« Reply #3 on: 26 Jun 16 / 08:08 PM »
It sounds like damage to me. If I remember rightly you were quite aggressive with the bleaching and fading a couple of months back, and bleach/chemical damage takes a while before it starts to show, which is why we always advise to go slowly.
Try a protein treatment, it may help to even out the porosity which will help the colour to last longer. How long are you leaving the dye on for? Leaving it on for at least 4 hours, or even overnight will maximise longevity.
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Re: Advice about red
« Reply #4 on: 27 Jun 16 / 10:54 AM »
I only bleached bath it once about 2 months ago and I faded it out the purple using colour remover and used  head and shoulders for 3 days.
I think I've left it for 2 hours cos I had plans so I cudnt leave on longer .
 

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Re: Advice about red
« Reply #5 on: 27 Jun 16 / 10:58 AM »
How are you washing it?

You did aggressively fade it several times though. Even if it's just head and shoulders lots of times, it all adds up to damage. I definitely remember you using vit c or bicarb of soda once and that's very drying.
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Re: Advice about red
« Reply #6 on: 27 Jun 16 / 11:56 AM »
It is most likely to be damage I think, the longest tips of mine used to fade first. If you wanted to try the clarifying shampoo I use either the Tresemme deep cleansing or Herbal Essences naked shampoo and they usually get everything out of mine after a couple of washes. Then maybe try leaving it on quite a bit longer, I used to leave it about 6 hours.

If it still doesn't work you could try the protein route that Wicked Pixie suggested.
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Re: Advice about red
« Reply #7 on: 27 Jun 16 / 01:33 PM »
I'm going shopping tommorow as I've been paid so gna look for stuff there. Yeah I did vitamin c
Should of just left it red haha nvm u think I've got that part out of me now
 

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Re: Advice about red
« Reply #8 on: 27 Jun 16 / 02:57 PM »
You didn't answer how you wash your hair now. It could be important and save you a lot of money.
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Re: Advice about red
« Reply #9 on: 28 Jun 16 / 06:40 AM »
Aussie shampoo and conditioner. Not too much shampoo this and warm water.
How do I do a protein treatment?
I got that naked shampoo by herbal essences and some coconut deep conditioner and I put more dye on last night for 4 hours
 

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Re: Advice about red
« Reply #10 on: 28 Jun 16 / 08:46 AM »
Ah, Aussie. Lots of silicone then. That could be blocking the dye from your hair, meaning it'll be washing off faster. Also, if you're putting the conditioner in the front first, it could be building up more. Hopefully the clarifying shampoo you did will have helped. More than one wash is often needed for bad build up though. Silicone could also be masking a lot of damage.

Also, if you put the shampoo on the front of your head first (most people do) this would be contributing to it fading faster. But more details about how you actually wash it would be helpful. I'm not trying to be awkward asking silly questions, I'm trying to help :)

For a protein treatment, it depends how bad your hair needs it. Kpak reconstructor would probably be best though. Make sure to deep condition afterwards.
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Re: Advice about red
« Reply #11 on: 28 Jun 16 / 09:34 AM »
So am I best off to use the herbal essences  for my next few washes? Think I  put it on the back first cos I don't have a shower. Bent over the bath with the shower thing lol
I'll have a look for that reconstructor.
My hair is looking very good today tho haha
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Re: Advice about red
« Reply #12 on: 28 Jun 16 / 09:37 AM »
No, don't use it again until it starts fading and you need to top up again. Don't use it too much as it strips the natural oil off the scalp too much.

I would suggest changing from the Aussie really and going for something without silicone.

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Re: Advice about red
« Reply #13 on: 29 Jun 16 / 10:21 AM »
How do u know what shampoo has silicone in it? As I can't see it on the back lol I might be being thick tho
 

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Re: Advice about red
« Reply #14 on: 29 Jun 16 / 11:15 AM »
It's about the shampoo and conditioner, it's more likely in conditioner. The last thing I read said "anything ending in “cone,” “conol,” “col,” or “xane,” " is best avoided.

Now, I don't think silicone is all evil, far from it. Water soluble silicone is not too bad - "Dimethicone Copolyol (water soluble), PEG-Dimethicone, or any other 'cone with "PEG-" suffix (water soluble)". In my opinion it's generally best to avoid them really as I never fully trust that they're gone when you could end up with patches.

If you see Methychloroisothiazolinone or Methylisothiazolinone, they're just preservatives and Benzophenone-2, ( or 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10) is sunscreen.

Silicone isn't the worst thing in the world, but to dye with direct dyes you have to use clarifying shampoo and they're really harsh which just adds to damage.
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Re: Advice about red
« Reply #15 on: 29 Jun 16 / 11:17 AM »
You beat me to it Janine! I was gonna post the link to this discussion from a while ago!

http://www.hairdyeforum.com/index.php/topic,8151.msg99933.html#msg99933
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Re: Advice about red
« Reply #16 on: 30 Jun 16 / 03:05 PM »
And within the silicone family, there are ones that are easy to remove, like amodimethicone. It is water soluble or the hard ones to emote like dimethicone. They can even melt into your hair, I
Especially if you use straighteners. There were many complaints about tresemme causing resistant to dye hair and when it was looked into it was straighter or hot iron use that had caused a plasticy layer on the outside hair shaft and was a total or partial barrier to hair dye penetration. There is a chart somewhere with a list of silicones, I will try and find it and post back if I do

Oh and boots do a very good clarifying shampoo it's boots own in a creamy coloured bottle with dark blue lid. Normally near the swimmers shampoos etc. ( also you could try chelating your hair, it's when a mineral or hard water build up is on your hair, that can lead to fading too, and if you clarify, you aren't chelating and vice-versa , they are two separate things, the swimmers shampoos are good at removing mineral build up and therefore are chelating)
 

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Re: Advice about red
« Reply #17 on: 30 Jun 16 / 07:13 PM »
My mom use to have my sister and I use a shampoo (I believe it was from the brand NEXXUS and it was green) after we had been swimming in chlorine, so that we wouldn't get a green look to our hair. I am pretty sure it was called aloe rid, it still left moisture in your hair unlike clarifying shampoos but it stripped out the mineral and chemical build up from the pool, that might be an option if you can find it. Its been so long since I used it though so I don't know if they still make it or what the ingredients are but it worked like a charm. I think Neutrogena makes a good one too but my hair definitely felt like straw afterwards, it left no moisture so if damage is a concern, I would stay away from that one.
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