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Hate my hair!
« on: 12 Jun 14 / 08:22 AM »
I woke up this morning, looked in the mirror and realised just how much I hate my hair!  It's just too dark, it's just too red!  To make a long story short, I messed up trying to highlight my hair a few months ago and have been using Adore ever since.  This week I tried my first bleach bath and messed that up too.  I didn't have enough to cover all my hair and the front and top where I started lightened to blonde.  So my hair is more multi coloured than it was before!

I covered everything up with darker Adore colours, Paprika, Cinnamon, honey brown, a little leftover copper brown.  You can still see the lighter areas though it doesn't look terrible. 

The problem is this just isn't me!  My natural colour is a medium mousy brown, all I ever wanted was a slightly lighter colour with Blondish highlights.  I don't care about highlights any longer, I just want lighter hair  all over, not a blotch here and a blotch there!

My next plan and please tell me if I'm wrong, is to do another bleach bath and try to hit only the areas that are still dark.  Easier said than done I know, but maybe I can get it close to one colour? 
 

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Re: Hate my hair!
« Reply #1 on: 12 Jun 14 / 09:43 AM »
Have you got a photo?
 

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« Reply #2 on: 12 Jun 14 / 09:56 AM »
Hmm... Maybe instead of using bleach on darker parts, opt for colour remover?

Tbh, If I were you, I'd leave my hair as it is, stripped as much of the colour I could, deep conditioned, left it for 2 weeks, wear it in a bun and stuff, and I'd try and fix the base colour, but I understand that you want instant results :D So go for colour remover. Good luck!
 

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« Reply #3 on: 12 Jun 14 / 10:45 AM »
I've used colour remover a couple times not too long ago but it didn't lift the dark areas that much, just turned them a medium orangey brown.  My natural colour is medium brown and now there's been so much new growth since I last used permanent colour!  I'll see if I can get a decent picture later.
 

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« Reply #4 on: 12 Jun 14 / 11:42 AM »
Did you rinse the dye correctly? It's a lot of work
 

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Re: Hate my hair!
« Reply #5 on: 12 Jun 14 / 11:45 AM »
Colour remover doesn't lift natural colour so won't make the dark hair lighter... Maybe I've misunderstood what you're saying there.

But if you want to get rid of the red, use a colour remover and then start over trying to lighten the darker parts. You HAVE to be patient even if you hate it.
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« Reply #6 on: 12 Jun 14 / 12:22 PM »
Yes you are correct, my natural colour is dark and when I did a bleach bath I didn't have enough product to cover everything so it's still dark.  I've used permanent dyes in the past but nothing too light. 

So the next time I do a bleach bath should I remove as much of the Adore colour as I can first?   Does bleach work best when it doesn't have all the colour to work through?   I can wait a bit before I do anything, I just need to have a plan sorted out in my head to make me feel better...........
 

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« Reply #7 on: 12 Jun 14 / 12:24 PM »
Do you have someone to help you apply dyes? Ideally someone who is experienced with hair dye, but just someone patient with an eye for detail will do.
Is the Adore the only dye on your hair now? I would fade out or use a colour remover to get back to the base. Then use a bleach bath mixture to even out the colour. Then if the hair is in good enough condition use a dark blonde demi with a low vol peroxide to put the ash blonde back in.
This cannot be done in a weekend though, a month is a more realistic timescale, possibly longer depending on how your hair responds.
A pic would be really helpful.
If you need quicker results would you be willing to sacrifice some length? How is the general condition of your hair now?
 

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« Reply #8 on: 12 Jun 14 / 12:41 PM »
No I don't really have someone to help I could ask my husband, maybe....  Yes Adore is the only dye on my hair since a couple rounds of colour remover a few months ago.  After I fried my highlights (back in February I think) I've had layers cut in my hair and a couple inches taken off to get rid of as much as possible.  The bits of highlighted hair that are left are still fairly damaged but there's not that much of it any more.  The rest of my hair seems good and pretty healthy.   I'll try to get some pics once my hair has dried, I deep conditioned today and it takes forever to dry!
 

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« Reply #9 on: 12 Jun 14 / 01:01 PM »
I'm really confused about the history of what you've used on your hair. What did you use the colour remover for?
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« Reply #10 on: 12 Jun 14 / 01:32 PM »
Oh sorry, I have for years coloured my hair with permanent dye.  I usually used a light warm coppery brown.  I had it in my head to lighten it a bit and put Blondish highlights in it earlier this year.  I was having the winter blahs and tired of my colour.    So I tried a lighter permanent dye all over but it didn't actually lighten at all.  I should've stopped there but I went ahead and used one of those awful highlighting kits.  I rinsed it off too soon and my highlights looked fluorescent orange!  So what did I stupidly do, I covered everything up with a medium brown permanent dye, and then highlighted AGAIN, right in a row!   It was at this point my highlighted bits started melting.  I haven't dyed my hair with permanent colour since.  I've used low volume peroxide to roughen up my new growth a bit but that's it.  Until the bleach bath this week!
 

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« Reply #11 on: 12 Jun 14 / 01:58 PM »
No I don't really have someone to help I could ask my husband, maybe.... 

Partners are very helpful...I've never seen Sam concentrate so much as when he's colouring my hair hehe
 

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« Reply #12 on: 12 Jun 14 / 05:57 PM »
I tried taking some pictures, it's weird how much lighter my hair looks on the pics and I didn't use the flash. In real life it's much darker and a deeper red overall.  But at least you can sort of see the difference between light and dark patches.  In the back, the light area is just on the top layer, mostly on the bottom half, underneath it's all much darker.   SOME of it is due to my botched bleach bath but some is from former highlights.  Oh I forgot, I didn't take a picture of my hair right in front at the top, that's even lighter still and probably the most noticable.
 
I have to say, in the pictures it doesn't look so bad, in real life it's worse....really!
 

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« Reply #13 on: 12 Jun 14 / 06:11 PM »
I just want to say your hair looks gorgeous, so full and long!  So keep that in mind when you say you hate your hair.  I "hated mine" for years (and my poor mother heard me say this every single day!), but mine was short and dry and puffy and unruly.  Yours really is pretty.

I second the colour remover suggestion, and depending on the condition of your hair I'd suggest trying some fading techniques that have been posted on this forum.  I've done multiple processes in a row (years back), and my hair was just never the same and had to grow out.

So if it were me, I'd stay away from bleach + peroxide for as long as possible, try some gentle weekly fading treatments and see what you're left with.  If you get more orange tones, they can temporarily be toned down with diluted dyes between treatments.

Hope you find more success with it. :-*
 

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« Reply #14 on: 12 Jun 14 / 11:09 PM »
my advice would be to try some fading techniques (i.e. head and shoulders shampoo), maybe try bleach bathing again, perhaps doing a few deep conditioning treatments maybe with the Joico K-Pak, and then try dying your hair again.
 

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« Reply #15 on: 12 Jun 14 / 11:21 PM »
Thanks everyone for your advice and comments!  I'll try more fading treatments but all my new growth is going to remain dark, so not sure I want to do that until closer to the time I try another bleach bath or whatever It is I decide to do next.   I'm still so confused the best way to deal with this!
 

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« Reply #16 on: 12 Jun 14 / 11:58 PM »
You could try toning the orange with diluted blue dye. This will make it a more neutral brown and hopefully blend with your natural colour better.
What is your goal colour?
 

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« Reply #17 on: 13 Jun 14 / 12:36 AM »
My goal colour is a medium to dark blonde, I don't mind it a bit on the red side either, I just don't want all this darkness and dark red and orange combo (it is much darker in real life than the pics for some reason).  I feel like the "red woman" on Game of Thrones.  In the light it's pretty intensely red.    My original goal was dark blonde with light highlights, but I will never attempt highlights again!  For now I'd just be happy to get this all as close to one colour as possible and lightening up the dark bits.
 

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Re: Hate my hair!
« Reply #18 on: 14 Jun 14 / 10:38 AM »
I think your best option would be to bleach bath the darker areas only and then put an ash brown like Adore's Mocha over the whole lot (Mocha is very green based, I believe, which will help neutralise the red).

Get a partner to help you with the back of your hair and use a tint brush to apply the bleach bath more precisely.  I don't think you'll have to pull out the individual lighter strands in the darker area--just apply the bleach up to the line of demarcation.
 

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« Reply #19 on: 19 Jun 14 / 04:03 PM »
Honestly, I would try to get back down to as close to your bare base color as possible. Fade out all those semis, remove all the permanent dyes, and work on lightening and evening it out from there.

So you've just put in a bunch of Adore dyes right? I would start with fading treatments to remove those.
Then, I would use 2-3 color removers to remove all of the permanent dyes you've used. Just be sure to rinse a LOT after each one, so you rinse all of those shrunken color molecules out. If you don't rinse enough they can darken again when you bleach and you'll be back at square 1. I always rinse for a half hour, dry it completely, then rinse for another half hour. You can use developer on a test strand to make sure it doesn't darken.

At that point, your hair should be back down to as bare of a base as it can, and you can focus on lightening it and evening it out. I would fade and do the removers first though, that is really important, because you'll end up having to bleach your hair way more if you don't + it will bleach unevenly.

I would use actual bleach powder + get a bottle of 30 vol developer, which you can dilute with shampoo if you need 20 vol, 15 vol, etc.

I would get a big jar of coconut oil, a nice silicone free moisturizing conditioner, some vinegar to do vinegar rinses with, and a good reconstructor like Joico Kpak DPR to help keep the pH, protein + moisture balanced in your hair throughout this whole process.

For a dark blonde, lightening it all to a gold will work just fine, and for a medium blonde you'll want it more yellow. You can use a demi in a 7N or an 8N over it all, and you can use a violet semi heavily diluted in conditioner to keep it looking like a nice, natural blonde + keep those gold/yellow tones at bay.
Always remember to consider what your hair is going to feel like after processing it BEFORE you do it! Test strands, treatments/oils are important when it comes to hair, but the most important thing is patience!
 

 

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