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Hi,  I decided as I was starting to go that way naturally (!) I might as well have a complete change and go white.  I've been most kinds of red-brown / brown / blonde over the years but never this light.  After a few months of toying around with ashy blonde colours, I finally bleached my hair twice over the period of two weeks, then toned it.  I'm down to the last few pale gold bits but they are being stubborn.  I have tried Wella 8/81... I went grey in places!  I did the second bleach which lightened things up further but still my hair resists.  I have found the Revlon colour ball 1002 works pretty well but still there are areas of slight gold. especially on the ends of my hair. 
I should say I do have very short hair so the ends will be cut off in a couple of months anyway, but meantime what toner do most of you use to get that white (not silver) hair?  My plan is to get to white then swipe in a colour for a bit of fun. 
Is the Directions white a good bet?
Thanks in advance for any tips from you who have managed the feat!  :)
 

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Never tried my own but everyone swears by wella t-18 white lady / lightest ash blonde, or manic panic virgin snow
 

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Actually, here we don't like toners like wella t-18 because you have to use peroxide with it. Not good on freshly bleached hair.

I've only ever used purple shampoos for toning.
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I always used to use purple shampoo  or Roux Fancifull rinses are good too.
 

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If you haven't tried a purple shampoo/conditioner I would try one, or you can make your own with a violet semi heavily diluted in conditioner. That way you can control how weak or strong you need it to be
Always remember to consider what your hair is going to feel like after processing it BEFORE you do it! Test strands, treatments/oils are important when it comes to hair, but the most important thing is patience!
 

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If you haven't tried a purple shampoo/conditioner I would try one, or you can make your own with a violet semi heavily diluted in conditioner. That way you can control how weak or strong you need it to be

If I use white lady mixed with conditioner and no peroxide will that tone better than regular shimmer lights conditioner ?
 

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I don't think you should be using it like that.
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Actually, here we don't like toners like wella t-18 because you have to use peroxide with it. Not good on freshly bleached hair.

I've only ever used purple shampoos for toning.


Oh, it wasn't the one you mix with peroxide, only the use straight from bottle semi-permanent toner 8/81 not the T18.  I don't want to add extra bleach again! 

I have used purple shampoos but no real luck.  I suspect if I keep using my Revlon colourball it will eventually work as my hair does seem lighter after each use.  Or I might try the manic panic.  I will give it a week or two and see what happens.  I fancied a kind of rose gold tone under the white for the fringe eventually, so that would hide the worst of the remaining yellow anyway I guess.  At least as it grows out it will get easier to keep it since I am about 70% light grey/white anyway :D

Thanks for all the suggestions!
 

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It wasn't you I was saying that to you really, just mentioning it as it's not something we recommend here :)

Do you leave the shampoos on for a little while?
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It wasn't you I was saying that to you really, just mentioning it as it's not something we recommend here :)

Do you leave the shampoos on for a little while?
A few minutes under a cap.
 

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 Sorry, that wasn't aimed at you either! That was meant for smithyT as she's said  they don't work for her.
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It wasn't you I was saying that to you really, just mentioning it as it's not something we recommend here :)

Do you leave the shampoos on for a little while?

You gotta love crossed posts!! :D

Yes, I have tried leaving the shampoos for a bit.  Tried Directions toner today, nothing.  wel, not much anyway, apart from leaving a little tint of violet behind in the bits that are white.  Or that are more silver now!!  Im beginning to think about giving up.  My hair is a mix of silver/white and very very pale gold now.  Im sure its pale enough the toner should work, but it is being stubborn and I really hate the light gold sheen.  I'm the wrong skin tone for gold colours, I need ash/white or reds really!   

Hmm...trying to resist giving up and going for a colour instead!
 

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I like the redken silvercharge shampoo for men. Its very thick and quite pigmented but it doesnt go lilac. It just tones.
 

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I always like bonacure silver shampoo for toning or provoke touch of silver shampoo
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Thanks guys :)

Oddly enough it seems lighter today without me doing anything else to it!  Went out last night to a steampunk meet and got positive comments so I guess I will keep at it.  Maybe it's a gradual thing with my mop, just use the toner a few more times and I might be there.  All else fails and I might try a bleach bath in a couple of weeks or so but for now I will give it a chance to recover.     
 

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You could try dyeing it a darker lilac colour and letting it fade out to white.
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You could try dyeing it a darker lilac colour and letting it fade out to white.

Thanks! Thats an idea, though whether I will suit lilac...  :D

I think I will do a few more sesions with the directions toner, I think it will just take time.  Hopefully when the roots come through it will be easier as they will be virgin hair and not pre-coloured like the ends. 
 

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I have used Wella T18, Wella T14, Wella T10, MP Virgin Snow, three different purple shampoos, and homemade purple semi toner.

I would have to say the purple semi toner works best as long as you use a purple with good staying power. Even though your hair won't actually be purple, all toners will fade, and you don't want it to fade out in 2 days like I had mine do with MP Ultraviolet. I've also heard Pravana Silver works pretty well too, but I've never tried that one myself.
 

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If you haven't tried a purple shampoo/conditioner I would try one, or you can make your own with a violet semi heavily diluted in conditioner. That way you can control how weak or strong you need it to be

If I use white lady mixed with conditioner and no peroxide will that tone better than regular shimmer lights conditioner ?

Probably not, I've never tried mixing an oxidative dye with conditioner to tone at all, I'm not sure it would do anything at all.

My absolute favorite dye to use to tone is Pravana Violet. It is a semi direct dye, so no developer at all, and just add a drop to a bowl of conditioner. I would clarify your hair, rinse in hot water, don't condition or apply any products or anything, let it dry completely, then apply the semi toner to those last stubborn bits.
Always remember to consider what your hair is going to feel like after processing it BEFORE you do it! Test strands, treatments/oils are important when it comes to hair, but the most important thing is patience!
 

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I have used purple shampoo and a semi toner. The purple shampoo I prefer to use but find I will get some lilac/purple strands if I leave it longer than 4-5 minutes, it's by Fudge. As for toner, I have used Directions White toner and think it did an ok job but much prefer my purple shampoo - cheaper too if you have long hair because you don't need much and once a week was enough for me. I had to use over 2 pots of the white toner to make sure it was all distributed/covered evenly. I used all of the 2 pots but it wasn't enough so made up some extra mixing Directions Violet with conditioner.
 

 

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