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Hi everyone!

Thought I'd start a post on this as I haven't seen any about this so far on the forum and I assume this will be of interest for most of you (does anyone not use peroxide/bleach at all on here?).
I found out about this from a forum called thelonghaircommunity which is mostly a forum to support people trying to grow their hair long, or who are interested in means to maintain their hair's health. Most of what I know about hair care I got from there.

Someone from the forum has been researching the fact that coconut oil could protect hair from the damage caused by peroxide and bleach. This is not hippy dippy bulls**t, btw, but there is serious science behind this, that is, that coconut oil is a natural chelating agent which chelates the damaging iron and copper produced by the chemical reaction which happens when you use peroxide on your hair.

Here are some links that you might find interesting:
from ktani's blogspot:
http://ktanihairsense.blogspot.com/2009/11/part-1-of-3-part-series-on-innovative.html
from her posts on the long hair community forum:
http://forums.longhaircommunity.com/showthread.php?t=10495
http://forums.longhaircommunity.com/showpost.php?p=519542&postcount=737

If you can't be bothered to read, and you don't really care the explanation:

-method is: after clarifying hair (that is using a clarifying shampoo without cones/oils which would leave a residue), -Note: when bleaching ones hair it should *alwys* be applied to atleast 2day dirty hair, to help prevent scalp chemical burns- soak it in pure coconut oil (pure argan oil works too) from root to tip. Leave it to soak for at least an hour.
then dye your hair as usual, or bleach or whatever you intended on doing.
proceed as you would normally do, rinse and condition or do whatever you usually do.

- most reports of people who have used this method have reported little to no damage to the condition of their hair (one user FrannyG, who bleaches her hair blond with a box dye, reported an increase in thickness of her hair after a whole year of using coconut pre-dye)

- there has also been reports of coconut oil increasing dye uptake and faster lightening results due to the chelating action.


So there you go, interesting isn't it? I've only used this method once this summer, while using a semi-permanent (Nice n easy) dye with peroxide and I had excellent dye uptake and no damage.

I plan to use this method when I do my bleach bath whenever I get my bleach/peroxide and I will hopefully post a step by step with pictures here to show you results.
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Re: Coconut oil to prevent damage from peroxide/bleach
« Reply #1 on: 05 Oct 11 / 10:15 AM »
That sounds interesting. I've used coconut oil as a conditioning treatment before and it left my hair feeling gorgeous, but never used it before dying. I'd be interested to see how you go.
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Re: Coconut oil to prevent damage from peroxide/bleach
« Reply #2 on: 05 Oct 11 / 01:10 PM »
wow, sounds really intersting. im avoiding the bleach atm, but will defos give this a go when im being naughty again
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Re: Coconut oil to prevent damage from peroxide/bleach
« Reply #3 on: 05 Oct 11 / 08:50 PM »
so you dont wash out the coconut?

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Re: Coconut oil to prevent damage from peroxide/bleach
« Reply #4 on: 06 Oct 11 / 12:29 PM »
I'm actually gunna try this as I've been looking into coconut oil for a while anyway and my hair's due a bleach to go turquoise :)
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Re: Coconut oil to prevent damage from peroxide/bleach
« Reply #5 on: 06 Oct 11 / 05:01 PM »
I really can't wait to try this! Does anyone know any places which do sell coconut oil that can be used for hair, preferably organic?

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Re: Coconut oil to prevent damage from peroxide/bleach
« Reply #6 on: 06 Oct 11 / 06:11 PM »
Hey everyone!
So to answer the question of Saoirse you're not supposed to wash out the coconut oil. The last time I did this with a semi-perm dye my hair was literally dripping with oil and it did not block dye uptake, on the contrary, I noticed faster and more intense uptak of the dye (so much so that it was a bit dark for my taste as it was an ash blonde dye which ended up being more of a dark blonde than my expected medium).
I will let you know the results with pictures and everything when I bleach on Monday.

Places to buy coconut oil: I've bought some from Holland and Barretts before and from a local organic grocery store. Cheap non-organic coconut oil can be purchased from indian/exotic stores (I've bought some from spicesofindia.co.uk).
There is also lots available on Amazon. I would recommend there the shop called naissance which is reasonably priced, I bought some argan oil and hemp oil for my hair from their.

Hope this helps!
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Re: Coconut oil to prevent damage from peroxide/bleach
« Reply #7 on: 06 Oct 11 / 06:14 PM »
Don't superdrug sell it as well?
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Re: Coconut oil to prevent damage from peroxide/bleach
« Reply #8 on: 06 Oct 11 / 06:26 PM »
I've heard it, but can't say I've been to one in months as I'm currently living nowhere near one (unless I take a train to Leicester or Nottingham). But I'd be wary of people charging extra money for coconut oil "specially for hair", that's bulls**t, all you need is virgin coconut oil which is what all the coconut oils for cooking should be.
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Re: Coconut oil to prevent damage from peroxide/bleach
« Reply #9 on: 06 Oct 11 / 06:29 PM »
Thank you for letting me know :3 I haven't sene any in superdrugs I have seen coconut conditioners but I don't think they will work.
May I add also that I have done a bleach bath before on my hair with olive oil on it from it the previous night and it lightened it and didn't damage it as much, so I can imagine this would work a treat!

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Re: Coconut oil to prevent damage from peroxide/bleach
« Reply #10 on: 06 Oct 11 / 06:33 PM »
Conditioners would definitely not work. Good luck with getting your coconut oil!
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Re: Coconut oil to prevent damage from peroxide/bleach
« Reply #11 on: 06 Oct 11 / 07:27 PM »
Thanks for sharing this information with us :) I currently have virgin hair and am planning to do my first full-head bleach sometime in the new year, and recently started doing a once-weekly coconut oil treatment which has helped to take my hair from good condition to pretty much excellent condition. I'm still undecided as to whether I will be having it bleached at a hairdressers, or doing it myself at home, but if I decide on the latter I will definitely be giving this a try. Thanks again :)
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Re: Coconut oil to prevent damage from peroxide/bleach
« Reply #12 on: 06 Oct 11 / 07:48 PM »
thanks theodora ill definitely try this next time i bleach!

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Re: Coconut oil to prevent damage from peroxide/bleach
« Reply #13 on: 06 Oct 11 / 10:01 PM »
oooooooooooooh im gonna try this!!

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Re: Coconut oil to prevent damage from peroxide/bleach
« Reply #14 on: 06 Oct 11 / 11:18 PM »
Superdrug does a cocunut & almond conditioner which contains lots of ingredients, and it also does a plain coconut oil. What you want is the latter for this purpose. It's currently on offer for 2 for 2.99 or 1.99 per tub.

I just bought some today, I've just bleached my hair over the weekend, but I'll try it next time. Theodora, do you use veggie dyes or dyes with developers. I'm asking because dyes with developers don't need clean hair so oil in hair wouldn't matter, but this wouldn't be the case with veggie dyes, they work differently. I always do two or three clarifying shampoos between bleach and dye, and plan on doing the same next time either way.
 

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Re: Coconut oil to prevent damage from peroxide/bleach
« Reply #15 on: 07 Oct 11 / 12:23 AM »
Oops I should have made it obvious coconut oiling is really not for use pre veggie dying! It's to use before bleaching (or before using a box dye like XXL or Nice n Easy etc).
Hair before using a veggie dye obviously needs to be bone dry and clarify to facilitate the absorption.
That's why I put this post in the "Bleaching" category!

I apologize if anyone got confused with my statements about semi-permanent, I meant traditional box dyes, not veggie ones!

And thanks for telling us about the Superdrug offer, I definitely need to visit one soon!
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Re: Coconut oil to prevent damage from peroxide/bleach
« Reply #16 on: 09 Oct 11 / 09:37 AM »
Superdrug sell solid coconut oil, it's amazing.

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Re: Coconut oil to prevent damage from peroxide/bleach
« Reply #17 on: 09 Oct 11 / 02:31 PM »
This is pretty amazing. I'm going to try this in a week or two.

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Re: Coconut oil to prevent damage from peroxide/bleach
« Reply #18 on: 09 Oct 11 / 04:23 PM »
Oh oh I got my coconut oil from superdrugs! It is 2 for 2.99 but I just bought the one for now it is like 125 ml and I can't wait to use it for my bleaching next week! It can also be used for skin but I can't wait to give this a go

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Re: Coconut oil to prevent damage from peroxide/bleach
« Reply #19 on: 10 Oct 11 / 02:41 PM »
Do you dry your hair before oiling it as I'm sure you're not meant to use bleach on wet hair?
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Re: Coconut oil to prevent damage from peroxide/bleach
« Reply #20 on: 10 Oct 11 / 11:22 PM »
You can apply the coconut oil to dry hair or to damp hair, it all depends on what you prefer. As long as your hair is free of residue it should be fine. And you're not supposed to bleach/dye straight after applying the oil, but leave it to soak for at least one hour before proceeding to whatever you want to do to your hair. I'm just about to go and shampoo off the bleach right now, and I'll do a post tomorrow about how things went with a play by play.
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Re: Coconut oil to prevent damage from peroxide/bleach
« Reply #21 on: 11 Oct 11 / 01:49 PM »
450g tub of pure coconut oil, half price in holland & barrett at the moment.

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Re: Coconut oil to prevent damage from peroxide/bleach
« Reply #22 on: 11 Oct 11 / 03:58 PM »
So I bleached my hair last night! But I was super cautious as I am very paranoid that my hair my just give up on life any minute soon.
First step: Sunday night I washed my hair with a clarifying shampoo (Boots basics 60p stuff) and hopped out of the shower without putting any conditioner on. I towel-dried my hair a little and covered it in coconut oil and went to sleep.
- next day, my hair had already absorbed a lot of the coconut oil so I slathered on some more. Here is what my hair looked like:

Sorry about using my webcam, but my camera has gone missing. I hope you can tell that it's pretty oily (but not exactly dripping with oil).

Step two: the bleaching! I didn't get around to it until the evening but my hair still felt sufficiently oily. The application on oil is pretty interesting, it feels very different than on dry hair. I quite like it, it feels easier to get an even coverage. As I was being super cautious because my hair is long and fine and has been damaged quite a bit in the past couple of years I did two different mixes. On the bottom half of my hair (by which I mean the underlayer) which is darker and less damaged, I used bleach powder + 20 vol peroxide with only like a tiny squirt of shampoo. On the top half or canopy, which is not looking exactly amazing, I did a bleach bath so again bleach powder + 20 vol + a good amount of shampoo and a little squirt of water.
Left the bottom part on for 40 minutes then rinsed separately, top part was on for maybe 30 minutes total.
Then I washed it off with shampoo, and slathered on some toner (white virgin) mixed with a little bit of conditioner (Tresemme naturals) covered that with cling film and a hat and slept in it.

Results today (after rinsing with diluted vinegar and putting a little bit of a leave-in: Summer Panacea by Nightblooming on Etsy):

Again, excuse the webcam quality of the pictures. My hair is soft, looks shiny and not damaged at all by the bleaching. The underlayer which got the strongest bleach is perfectly fine and healthy still. Also, please ignore the roots, I have intentionally not bleached my natural regrowth which I've been growing for about 3-4 months now. I haven't decided yet whether to keep this as I like the ombre look or bleach it.
Finally, a closer look at my ends:


Okay so I know these aren't the best quality pictures, but I can assure you that I cannot see any sign of damage. My hair isn't stretchy at all, which is my biggest nightmare, and it feels soft and looks really shiny.

Now I have to decide whether to continue lightening very progressively like this until I reach pale yellow or maybe try the same bleach and 20 vol without diluting it with shampoo for a quicker lightening effect. I just don't want my hair to break/fall off/get nasty and gummy!


If any of you try bleaching/dying with peroxide after coconut oiling, please post your experience on this thread!
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Re: Coconut oil to prevent damage from peroxide/bleach
« Reply #23 on: 11 Oct 11 / 04:14 PM »
I tried this today actually, I would definitely say that you should have quite a bit of the coconut oil in, basically be generous, I feel like I didn't have enough of it and my hair is a tiny bit more drier due to bleaching but NO where near as it usually is, but definitely give it a go just be sure there is lots of it, bleach eats through everything.

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« Reply #24 on: 11 Oct 11 / 04:16 PM »
By the way I got to thank you so much for sharing this coconut oil, because I let it soak in my hair overnight and my hair felt amazing, not even too greasy, just kind of like if you put wax in your hair although feels so soft, I adore coconut oil now and bleaching your hair sure isn't the best of things to be doing if you want your hair to be in good condition :3

 

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