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Bleach Powder + Shampoo and oils
« on: 31 May 14 / 03:33 PM »
Okay so tying into this thread:
http://www.hairdyeforum.com/index.php?topic=13752.msg154984#new
And @Swilks recommendation of adding some shampoo to the bleach powder + water technique, I used that as inspiration to try something different.

My hair was slathered in coconut oil, I didn't rinse it out or anything first. I used:
- 3-4 oz various sulfate based shampoos
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So there's much less bleach powder going into it than the water paste technique. I applied it in the same general manner as I would bleach but I took bigger sections, painted some of the mix on and slathered it onto the rest of the section, so nothing precise or technical, it was pretty sloppy. Then I worked it through it all, making sure it was heavily covered and flipped each side of the hair on my head over the top, like 2 headbands. Make sure you are very, very liberal with it so it doesn't dry out, it should feel like a cross between having hair full of shampoo and conditioner, you don't want it to feel sparse or dry at all. Really put a bunch on and work it through + scrub it into your hair some to try and really get it in there. 

There didn't seem to be much color coming out + I was about to just rinse it out thinking it was a waste of time/product, but I put a cap on it and left it for about a half hour, smooshing the hair around periodically. It was hot outside and warm in the house so there was a lot more heat coming from my scalp than normal which I think was the key element. I mean, I was really hot during this! lol So I would either stay really active while it's on or keep it warm throughout it, periodically heating it up with a dryer and smooshing it around under the cap to make sure all the hairs are getting warmed up. Warming it up with a dryer may actually be better, because where I sweat more, in my nape area, I got really itchy afterwards after I shampooed. Anyway though, I kept mine on for bout a half hour, then I rinsed in warm/hot water and shampooed it once, deep conditioned, and holy cow I am impressed! 

For aftercare, you will want to deep condition/put some oils in your hair, and finish with a vinegar rinse.

For me, it was much less drying than using water alone with bleach powder, much less drying than doing a vitamin c treatment, and it pulled even more color out than any fading treatment I've ever tried. Though my hair looks crazy in the photo, it's half wet and half dry and looks a mess, it doesn't feel excessively dry at all, I don't have any splits starting from it like the last vitamin c treatment I did in the winter, my hair doesn't feel rough or tangley, it just feels dry, as if I used a really strong shampoo on it and left it for 45 minutes or something. It really does not feel bad at all. I will be keeping you all posted though, in case any damage pops up from it over the next month (which I'm really not expecting, but it could happen).

I have just over an inch of roots, which I tried to keep this mixture off of, then an inch or two of a pale pink/coral, then a duller, lighter version of my original color for a couple few inches, then I have places where I can see my blonde coming through (which I haven't seen since October, thanks Atomic Pink lol), a lot of coral and dusky pink and pastels of each allover the lengths.

The areas that it did get on my virgin hair, it revealed a little of the underlying pigment, so instead of a dark ash blonde, they have more of a light gingery/gold-ish tint to them.

I just HAD to share with all of you, and thank you to @Swilks for inspiring the shampoo idea :) Finally something budged this Atomic Pink past that light/neon pink stage!

I would treat this as if it were a bleach bath though. So if you have bleached/dyed, wait at least a month to do this, and a week after this to do any other processing. If you've done a bleach bath, wait at least a week to do this and again, at least a week to do any other processing.

I went  from slightly lighter than the first photo, to the 2nd. The result photo my hair is in that weird half wet/half dry stage so it looks a mess, sorry lol.  And sorry for the poor phone camera quality. I just wanted to take a quick result photo and post it as soon as I could for you all to see. I will be posting proper, dried hair photos later today lol


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Re: Bleach Powder + Shampoo and oils
« Reply #1 on: 01 Jun 14 / 11:15 AM »
Oh, I wish I'd knew before the powder + hot water technique!
 

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« Reply #2 on: 01 Jun 14 / 11:43 AM »
WOW! Holy cow :D it's amazing! I'm now trying to think of a way of removing brown (I presume) perm dye out of my hair, as I have a hard time lifting it with a 20vol bleach, so maybe I should try this method?

I love how multitonal your hair is, plus the quality is not bad at all, I can see the result really well! Thanks for posting!!
 

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Re: Bleach Powder + Shampoo and oils
« Reply #3 on: 01 Jun 14 / 12:23 PM »
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« Reply #4 on: 01 Jun 14 / 12:46 PM »
I've just done this and it's amazing! Before and after pics to come (although my resulting colour is sadly much less pretty than Katie's).

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Re: Bleach Powder + Shampoo and oils
« Reply #5 on: 01 Jun 14 / 01:22 PM »
OMG excellent results!!  I'm impressed, another amazing fading technique to try.  Good stuff!


(So you're changing from the pink now, or just fading for a clean base to put more on?) :D
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« Reply #6 on: 01 Jun 14 / 05:49 PM »
Thanks for sharing your results too TabithaBlue! And thanks to everyone for checking this out! I am anazed at how well it works and how much less drying it is compared to using it with water, or doing a vitamin c treatment.
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« Reply #7 on: 01 Jun 14 / 06:11 PM »
This is incredible! Will definitely be trying this next time I need to fade a colour.
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« Reply #8 on: 02 Jun 14 / 12:40 PM »
I might try this tomorrow!
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« Reply #9 on: 02 Jun 14 / 01:11 PM »
Thanks for sharing your results too TabithaBlue! And thanks to everyone for checking this out! I am anazed at how well it works and how much less drying it is compared to using it with water, or doing a vitamin c treatment.

My hair feels perfectly fine afterwards - I did slap on some K-pak immediately after, but then I dried without conditioner and it felt great, and now post-dye it feels lovely. Yay!
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Re: Bleach Powder + Shampoo and oils
« Reply #10 on: 02 Jun 14 / 03:40 PM »
Oooft that really HAS lifted a lot!!! Maybe you'll get to your hair dream sooner than planned!
Although I will miss my pinky friend lol! Tori shouts MUMMY everytime she sees your avatar LOL!
 

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« Reply #11 on: 02 Jun 14 / 10:18 PM »
Oooft that really HAS lifted a lot!!! Maybe you'll get to your hair dream sooner than planned!
Although I will miss my pinky friend lol! Tori shouts MUMMY everytime she sees your avatar LOL!


Awwww! That is so sweet <3 <3 <3 I know I'm totally impressed with how much this has taken out and how great my hair feels after! I will keep posted though in case any unexpected damage shows up over the next month or so, you never know! My hair really did feel fine after, just a little dry. I did make a mix out of Suave's Tropical Coconut Conditioner, a tube of Biolage Keratindose concentrate, and 2 vials of Biolage Hydratherapie Cera-Repair (moisture) and used it right after, and I've done I think 2 overnight coconut oil + olive oil soaks, and my hair feels back to normal completely now.  I have 2 areas that got damaged in the winter, the areas right in front of the ear. I have a little sidecut on each side, and that area right behind it wasn't breaking or splitting or anything, it didn't feel rough either, the ends just looked thin and scraggly so I cut them off. You can see in the photos, especially the 2nd one what I'm talking about. So if you have any areas that are a little iffy to begin with, I'd be very careful if you use this treatment, you may end up with some damage.

All in all though I'm totally loving this! At first I really did NOT like these warm pastels on me, I normally look like death wearing colors like this in clothing. It has seriously grown on me though! When it fades a little more, I may try adding some various pastels/just darker than pastels in some placement so I can have some pastel rainbow action going on before I do go dark grey. And yes @Swilks, I think I'll be able to get to dark grey a lot sooner than I thought!


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« Reply #12 on: 02 Jun 14 / 10:51 PM »
Love it!
 

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« Reply #13 on: 03 Jun 14 / 11:25 AM »
It's so cute! And I think you will suit dark grey very well. Can't wait to see it!
 

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Re: Bleach Powder + Shampoo and oils
« Reply #14 on: 06 Jun 14 / 08:14 PM »
so, for future reference, will this mixture lighten roots at all, or just fade dye?  though regardless (since my roots aren't an issue atm), i think i need to try this really soon-- it sounds almost too good to be true, lol!  ....also, i agree that dark gray will look fantastic on you-- can't wait to see!
 

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Update: 2nd Application of Bleach Powder + Shampoo and Oils
« Reply #15 on: 06 Jun 14 / 08:37 PM »
Thanks so much @Odette and @Valaina :) I can't wait to go dark grey! I have to remember patience though! lol

@pastina thank you!
 it didn't lighten my natural level of my roots, like it didn't pull them from dark ash blonde to gold or yellow or anything, but they are definitely more gingery looking now than ashy. Still the same level, just the underlying pigment was revealed from doing this.

I do think the heat is the key element in pulling it altogether though, just as important as the ingredients themselves. It is drying though just like other fading treatments, so make sure your hair isn't dried out to begin with before you do this. And if you have any areas that are iffy/on the verge of feeling damaged I would be careful. I had a couple areas that were iffy, not breaking or splitting, just not 100%, and after this they looked thin and scraggly. They weren't breaking or anything, they just didn't look nice. You can see I chopped those ends off, the area hanging right in front of my ears, right behind the darker pink streak on my swept over side. You can see it's shorter on that side than on my right, which I also cut

It really worked awesomely though! I still can't believe how much color it took out lol, I'm not used to seeing myself with light hair! haha. You can always try it on a test strand too to see what your results will be like. Just wrap it in foil and heat it up a bit, just try to keep it warm (not hot) throughout, you don't want it to get cool.

UPDATE 6.6.2014:
I ended up bleaching my roots, I shampooed, did a keratin and moisturizing treatment, then it felt like I still had bleach on my scalp/in my hair. So I shampooed it again and impulsively  did one more shampoo + bleach powder + coconut/olive oil treatment on my lengths afterwards, on shampooed, non conditioned, wet hair and this is what I have now, and I only left it on for 5 minutes, maybe like 7 at the most. I put a cap over it and heated it with  dryer for the first 2-3 minutes:



I didn't condition afterwards since I'm planning on doing something with my roots (don't know what yet lol) but it really feels and looks just fine!
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« Reply #16 on: 07 Jun 14 / 11:13 PM »
Thanks so much for the update on this thread.  I'm so pleased to hear that this sounds like a rather undamaging fading treatment.  I do love the result and can't wait to see the next colour choice!
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« Reply #17 on: 08 Jun 14 / 06:18 PM »
Thanks @Alexia :-) it really doesn't feel damaging, just drying like the typical fading treatment :-)

I have already dyed it and I'm loving it! I'll post pictures today or tomorrow in my timeline. I feel like a Lisa Frank magical unicorn cotton candymy llittle pony faerie!
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« Reply #18 on: 09 Jun 14 / 10:23 AM »
I have already dyed it and I'm loving it! I'll post pictures today or tomorrow in my timeline. I feel like a Lisa Frank magical unicorn cotton candymy llittle pony faerie!

AWWWWWWWW!! post them pictures, weeeeerrrrrrrrrrrrkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk <3
 

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« Reply #19 on: 09 Jun 14 / 02:31 PM »
Haha I promise I'll be posting pictures today! It was hot and humid yesterday and the kids were running me ragged all day so I really didn't feel up for putting on makeup and making my hair not look like I've been sweating all day lol. I have to get ready and run some errands (including shopping for hair stuff! yay!) but I promise I'll take some photos and have them up this afternoon :)
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« Reply #20 on: 10 Jun 14 / 09:47 AM »
Katie I wanted to ask on this - I'm planning on doing this fade on mine in a few weeks time (after my sun holiday), at which point my roots will be hideous as well (8 weeks since last roots / colour application).  My natural colour is very dark brown so the roots do get very bad!  I can get away with it with the darker VR I've got on there at the moment - but if it's paler it'll look silly. 

Would you recommend doing this fade treatment first and leaving the roots even longer before I do them?  Or do the roots first?  Or will this process be enough to tone the roots in enough not to look too terrible? 

I don't want to overprocess, but I don't want my hair looking completely stupid for the summer either! 
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« Reply #21 on: 10 Jun 14 / 09:16 PM »
When I did it , trying to avoid it getting on my roots (like a reverse touch up, it was weird applying it! lol) the parts that it did get on didn't lift by levels or anything, but the underlying pigment was revealed. So instead of them being my natural level 7 dark ash blonde they looked more like a light ginger/gold level 7. So if you do decide to let your roots get longer and you get some on them, they will probably look more like a dark red/brown vs a dark brown and it shouldn't really be noticeable.

Personally I don't like going long without doing roots because you can get banding/have to go over the bottom part of the roots again later and it's just a pain, plus the extra damage. That's just my feel on it though!

If it were me, I would definitely wait til after your holiday, if you're in the sun/water a lot, your color may fade so much you may not even need a fading treatment at all. I would treat this treatment as if it were a bleach bath to be on the safe side though. So you could do the fading treatment, trying to keep it off your roots, wait a week, then do your roots, or do your roots, wait a week for some oils to build back up in your hair, then do the fading treatment. I know you don't like how dark roots look vs paler lengths, but it's up to you whether you want  bleached roots + darker lengths for a week, or darker roots and paler lengths for a week.

I know I did it right after bleaching my roots and shampooing, but it was more drying doing it that way than doing it on hair that hadn't been washed for days + was coconut oiled. So even though I did it that way + it didn't seem to damage my hair or anything, it just made it dry, it doesn't mean that it won't damage someone else's hair. Do you get what I'm saying? I'm just trying to advise the safer way to go about it than my last one lol
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« Reply #22 on: 10 Jun 14 / 09:47 PM »
Brilliant thanks. I usually do roots at 6 weeks but that's the start of my holiday so it'll have to wait. I'll see how faded I am after then - and you're right I'll probably do roots first then a fade later if it needs it. Although I'm now pondering roots before holiday... Hmmm. I'll think that one through.

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« Reply #23 on: 03 Jul 14 / 09:14 AM »
I used this again yesterday. I had done two bicarb fading treatments on my Pravana Violet, when it was still basically the colour in my avatar, and got a streaky result with some bits still that dark and some bits lilac-grey. After half an hour with this on, I'm golden blonde, with a tiny bit of lilac in some places. And my hair feels fine.

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« Reply #24 on: 03 Jul 14 / 10:08 AM »
This is the best and the most gentle fading treatment I have tried, I hope it will budge the green stain left from adore indigo and the new turquoise formula. I tried it once yesterday too and my hair feels perfect, so perfect in fact I am very tempted in doing it a second time today... I should be patient though! So grateful for this thread!
 

 

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